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House Republicans Cave on Payroll Tax Cut Extension (Time for McConnell and Boehner to leave)
abc ^ | 12/22/2011 | By JONATHAN KARL (@jonkarl) , JOHN PARKINSON (@JParkABC) and HUMA KHAN

Posted on 12/22/2011 7:37:30 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: WilliamIII

The defunding of Social Security via FICA rate cuts is a ruse positioned by the Left as a tax cut. The fact that the Republicans were inept at communicating this truth to a senior population who are frequently scared by our reprobate president, doesn’t make the policy wise.

It was Obama himself who just a few short months ago was scaring the hell out of seniors by saying he couldn’t guarantee their checks would be coming if a speding package wasn’t approved. Now he and his minions on the Left, together with witless Repubicans are getting away with a Social Security defunding at a time when our unemployment is extremely high. This stupid stunt is not creating incentives for business or economic growth. The key is income tax rate reductions and relief from onerous regulations.


41 posted on 12/23/2011 12:16:21 AM PST by untwist
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To: WilliamIII

It’s not a tax cut. It’s a deferral to the next crew that has to pick up the tab.

Is it written anywhere that SS and Medicare benefits will be cutback as a consequence of the “payroll tax cut”?


42 posted on 12/23/2011 12:19:08 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: matthew fuller
It is NOT an increase to 3 years of UE insurance. It is a continuation of the Federal extension of 99 weeks of UE insurance.

It may be a bad policy, but those who are unemployed now are still unemployed in an economy with six job seekers per posted job and true unemployment between 15 and 20%.

The continued need for such extended unemployment should be a huge part of the Republican candidates campaign.

43 posted on 12/23/2011 12:55:44 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Froggie

This is just the Beginning,wait until the 2 months are up.In this bill is the decision on the Keystone pipeline,it does NOT say the Pipeline should go ahead and be Built,it says the DECISION to have it be built must be Made,you guessed it, in 2 months,thats why the Democrats wanted this extended by 2 months,so they can trot out all the Sob Stories of inviduals they are video taping now who are going to starve to death if the Tax cut is not extended for a Year,and it is those Dastardly Republicans who are going to let them starve if they hold hostage the tax cut for THE POOR for a year,because of that Filthy Oil Pipeline.
Bohener is writing His CAVE speech already


44 posted on 12/23/2011 4:35:10 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Graewoulf

It’s pretty disgusting that they run for office (”public service”), spend tons of money to get elected, knock themselves out running around for votes, and then get there and moan about “political difficulties” when they of all people should know that that’s the very nature of the job. Just doing their job is too difficult for them? And getting well-paid—one might say overpaid—to do it? Public service my azz.


45 posted on 12/23/2011 6:20:35 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: WilliamIII

The GOP was never opposed to tax cuts. But a 2-month pledge of tax cuts which could just as easily end up being scrapped so that the whole-year net is even higher makes no sense. People need to have some certainty in order to plan. Changing everything around every 2 months only emphasizes that we never know what will be done to us.

And that uncertainty is what is killing employment opportunities. Nobody wants to invest where there’s no certainty. The dems using this ploy just shows that they don’t “get it”.

The hassle of doing 2 months different is an accountant’s nightmare. Supposedly to save the average family $40. It’s just a cheap political ploy for appearance’s sake while actually doing more harm than good, and I wish the R’s would have pointed that out.

I’m sick of them choosing appearance over substance. Sick of them refusing to take up the issue of what’s really going on. Sick of them afraid that the people have no brains whatsoever, as if they can’t be level with us. As long as they are afraid of the media we will never get anything done because it is too “politically dangerous”. This country is going to hell in a handbasket and the R’s are afraid of appearing like they’ve got a hair out of place. Good Lord! Where are the defenders of this country?!


46 posted on 12/23/2011 6:40:03 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: untwist

Public perception is a fickle thing and hard to predict in circumstances such as this. The GOP did right. Cut the LIBS leverage off at the knees on this one. And rightly so.

As for McConnel for Boener? That’s the diffence between the house and the senate. They are not the same body and never will be.


47 posted on 12/23/2011 7:20:28 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: WilliamIII

Hubby’s reaction too.


48 posted on 12/23/2011 7:23:14 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Mycroft Holmes

The removal of the FICA contribution through payroll decuction should have never been called a “tax cut”. It should have been captioned US Quits FICA Payroll Deductions and your spurious suggestion to delete “Quits FICA Payroll Deductions” and replace it with “Stealing From the “Lockbox” which opens an unecessary diversionary explanation from the subject..

First of all the purpose (subject) of this legislation is the discontinued funding of FICA known as Social Security, Not the diverting of FICA funds because these are replaced with IOU’s, which is therefore technically not “stealing” ...that has been gpong on for years...


49 posted on 12/23/2011 7:37:39 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: Keith in Iowa
It is indeed time for the Republicans to man-up and throw out their entire leadership in both houses of congress.

You presume the leadership does not represent the caucus.

Why?

50 posted on 12/23/2011 7:40:23 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Usagi_yo

I would like to agree that the GOP cut the Democrats leverage off at the knees. The fact that they publicly bought into this farce and allowed the Democrats the ‘high road’ on this Social Security defunding issue is a big blunder.

Whether we like it or not, perception is reality, especially to a very gullible sector of our population who don’t get or care about the truth. Big political win for Obama, Reid and their gang of charlatans.


51 posted on 12/23/2011 8:22:16 AM PST by untwist
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To: Jim from C-Town
"It is NOT an increase to 3 years of UE insurance. It is a continuation of the Federal extension of 99 weeks of UE insurance."

You might be correct about this, but there was talk about an extension from 99 wks to three years.

52 posted on 12/23/2011 9:51:29 AM PST by matthew fuller ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill)
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To: Waverunner

Reids poodle Bitch McConnell is a sniveling little career senate bureaucrat.

Face it conservatives have no representation in Washington aside from a few tea party members of Congress. The republican party will never allow conservatives to hold positions of power and will support anyone who opposes conservatives.

For the republican party a reckoning is on the horizon. Either the conservatives leave it or the liberals leave it but a house divided cannot stand.


53 posted on 12/23/2011 10:13:13 AM PST by sarge83
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