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Is Rain Water An Industrial Pollutant? [EPA to shut down US logging for at least 10 years]
PowerLine ^ | December 8, 2011 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 12/08/2011 3:49:16 PM PST by DManA

We have written repeatedly about the EPA’s war on energy and, more generally, on economic growth. But a case that may soon make its way to the Supreme Court is, critics argue, even more extreme than anything mandated by the Agency. The case is Georgia-Pacific West, Inc. et al. v. Northwest Environmental Defense Center. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled, reversing more than 35 years of practice and statutory interpretation, that runoff of rain water from forest roads that passes through one or more pipes or culverts constitutes point source pollution that must be permitted through the EPA’s NPDES program. 640 F.3d 1063. . . . The new administrative burdens the 9th Circuit decision puts on landowners and federal and state government is staggering. The U.S. Forest Service reports there are about 378,000 road miles in our national forests and that it will need about 400,000 permits. By the most conservative estimate, adding in state and private forests nearly doubles that number. Other estimates place the total well into the millions. Simply obtaining the Forest Service’s permits will take 10 years.

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Anyone still have doubts that there is a war on wealth going on?
1 posted on 12/08/2011 3:49:23 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

The 9th circuit need to be abolished.

These people are not Judges. They are crazy as loons.


2 posted on 12/08/2011 3:51:27 PM PST by Venturer
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To: DManA

There is certainly a war on the United States of America
and it’s being waged by the EPA.
This is insane add this to the no road initiatives
and no brush clearing and we are being set up for
massive destructive wildfires the like of which we
haven’t seen in a hundred years.

Just crazy.


3 posted on 12/08/2011 3:53:48 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DManA

All part of Agenda 21.


4 posted on 12/08/2011 3:56:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Venturer

It takes a partnership of crazy judges and President Obama’s wrecking squad to ruin a country.


5 posted on 12/08/2011 3:57:01 PM PST by DManA
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To: tet68

Unfortunately, I believe that they are fast moving to the point where the “war” could go hot.


6 posted on 12/08/2011 3:57:26 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: DManA

John Holdren
De-development of the US
http://cnsnews.com/node/75388

Add in “Green Jobs” scam

Cass Sunstein
Sebelius
Napolitano
CAdd in queuing up the aged, unborn, disabled, dissenters and other undesirables to die soon under 0bama Deathcare, “for the children.”

And all those czars and their staffs out there in the dark. Crazier than Norma Desmond.


7 posted on 12/08/2011 3:58:21 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Venturer
Yes, the 9th Circus must be abolished. And the EPA needs to be ripped up by the roots, and the earth beneath it salted. Both have done immeasurably more damage to this country than they've ever done good.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

8 posted on 12/08/2011 3:58:37 PM PST by Viking2002 (Hippies smell.)
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To: DManA
I like it. All those out of work and starving forest workers, saw mill operators, carpenters, furniture manufacturers, pulp wood producers are just one more sector of the economy who will laugh as they see out of control Federal animals, Democrats, enemies of the Constitution, dangle from lamp posts.

It's going to require a lot of rope...

9 posted on 12/08/2011 4:00:43 PM PST by jonascord (Political euthanasia would benefit the species...)
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To: DManA

We need Obama to be replaced ASAP.


10 posted on 12/08/2011 4:03:26 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: DManA

Local bumper sticker:

Can’t mine it.
Can’t log it.
Can’t graze it.
Let it burn.


11 posted on 12/08/2011 4:05:44 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: DManA

I’m pretty sure that Georgia-Pacific is owned by the Koch brothers. This is also probably an attack on them


12 posted on 12/08/2011 4:13:37 PM PST by rman04554
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If he is replaced with another socialist it won’t make one damned bit of difference.


13 posted on 12/08/2011 4:18:51 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DManA

We don’t need to compromise with them, we don’t need to get along, we don’t need to be civil, WE NEED TO CRUSH THEM! Whether you like Newt or not this is one thing I do agree with. Every agency needs to be gutted completely.


14 posted on 12/08/2011 4:25:55 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: DManA

Ban Di-Hydrous Monoxide!

It’s the MAIN INGREDIENT in acid rain!


15 posted on 12/08/2011 4:33:37 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: DManA

The EPA is a symptom, not the cause. Until we rewrite the:

1) Endangered Species Act
2) Clean Air Act
3) Clean Water Act

among others to put business on equal footing with the environment getting rid of the EPA is but a short term solution.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 4:34:39 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Viking2002

“And the EPA needs to be ripped up by the roots, and the earth beneath it salted.”

I could forgive a lot in a candidate that would make THAT promise.

And can you imagine the impact on DC, if they literally blew up the building and salted the ground?


17 posted on 12/08/2011 4:36:46 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: MrEdd

Romney would be the worst of the lot along with a couple of the minor players. Newt or Perry would both be a huge improvement.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 4:37:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“All part of Agenda 21.”

Many people think it will stop if we elect a Republican administration. I don’t.


19 posted on 12/08/2011 4:39:47 PM PST by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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Anyone still have doubts that there is a war on wealth going on?

Jerimiah Wright almost had it right. He should have said,,, "elect obama" and you will think GOD damned America

20 posted on 12/08/2011 4:40:37 PM PST by vinylsidingman
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