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An outbreak of fiscal sanity in California? (Voters inclined to stop high-speed boondoggle)
Hotair ^ | 12/07/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/07/2011 12:49:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Is there hope yet for the Golden State? While Governor Jerry Brown attempts to push through a tax increase that will make the state’s income tax even more progressive — and therefore more vulnerable to economic fluctuations — the state’s voters seem inclined to put the brakes on a high-speed boondoggle whose costs have tripled before ground has even been broken (via JWF):

Four weeks after the news that the cost of California’s high-speed rail project has tripled since voters approved it, the struggling project is taking another hit: waning public support.

A new Field Poll shows that 64 percent of California voters would like a ballot measure giving them a chance to reconsider their 2008 decision to approve $9 billion in state bonds for the project.

Fifty-nine percent said they would reject the $98.5 billion project if it were put before them again. In 2008, 52.6 percent of voters approved plans for the rail line to connect San Francisco and Sacramento with Los Angeles.

That’s not just Republicans talking, either. The Contra Costa Times quotes the chair of the state Senate Transportation Committee, Democrat Mark DeSaulnier, as acknowledging that “public patience” with the massive public-works project “is about exhausted. … I think it’s time to fish or cut bait with this project.” Another Democratic state Senator didn’t go quite as far; Joe Simitian warned that public support may fall so low that “you can’t sustain momentum for it,” but it’s too soon to see if that point has been reached.

Supporters of the project warn that shutting down the project now would mean having to return $3 billion in federal grants — but that’s a rather poor argument for committing to a project whose predicted cost has now risen to $99 billion, and the same projection warns that it could run an additional $19 billion more depending on route options. The funds would only be applicable to the project anyway, so it wouldn’t help California deal with its serial budget crises, and committing to the project would mean having to still find at least $96 billion from the pockets of California taxpayers.

Besides, the advocates for the rail project — which includes Governor Brown — will have to explain why the project should go ahead when Brown is predicting doom if further tax increases don’t get approved at the current level of spending:

“The stark truth is that without new tax revenues, we will have no other choice but to make deeper and more damaging cuts to schools, universities, public safety and our courts,” Brown said.

“That is why I am filing today an initiative with the Attorney General’s office that would generate nearly $7 billion in dedicated funding to protect education and public safety,” Brown said. “I am going directly to the voters because I don’t want to get bogged down in partisan gridlock as happened this year. The stakes are too high.”

Brown and fellow Democrats who control the legislature failed to win Republican votes to forward a tax measure to voters earlier this year and approved a state budget on their own that relied on deep spending cuts, some fees and the expectation of a $4 billion revenue surge to close a roughly $10 billion shortfall to balance the state’s budget.

Shouldn’t a state facing such a stark fiscal crisis avoid committing to a massively expensive public-works project that won’t generate revenue for more than a decade, and will require ongoing subsidies even when people do use it? How does Brown make a case that California can’t survive without big tax increases in a state whose tax system is already overly progressive and burdensome, and at the same time tell voters that spending $99 billion is just what the doctor ordered?

California voters might be achieving fiscal sanity. Clearly, though, their governing class is not even coming close.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; bullettrain; california; highspeedrail; highspeedtrain; traintonowhere; whiteelephant; williegreen

1 posted on 12/07/2011 12:49:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see it going anywhere. There are far better ways to spend Californian’s scarce transportation dollars than to waste it on a White Elephant project no one alive today will ever get to ride. California’s political class is out of touch with the popular mood.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 12:52:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

If CA Citizens have any sense of humor, they will vote for MORE tax increases, then promptly move to another state.

Let the illegals foot the bill for more taxes.


3 posted on 12/07/2011 12:57:30 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
If CA Citizens have any sense of humor, they will vote for MORE tax increases, then promptly move to another state. Let the illegals foot the bill for more taxes.

Now that's funny!!!

4 posted on 12/07/2011 1:07:05 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: SeekAndFind

California voters might be achieving fiscal sanity ?

Might ? I for one no longer care nor do i think about what Californians think or do . California should be treated as a disease so that what happens there does not spread . Nothing more.


5 posted on 12/07/2011 1:19:02 PM PST by dbrew2u
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll say it again: it’s high-school math to show that it is absolutely financially impossible.

$99B (just to build the tracks and stations) paid off over 30 years at 5% is a monthly payment of $526 million, i.e. $6.3 billion per year.

Divide that by the estimate (i.e. “guess” or more likely “hope”) of ridership of 37M trips per year (http://www.mercurynews.com/california-high-speed-rail/ci_19241126) and you come up with a cost of $161 per rider per one-way trip. Same-day JetBlue business class, plus taxi at each end, anybody? No, EVERYBODY, for thirty years.

Again, that doesn’t count fuel, advertising, turning on the lights in the station, or hiring anybody to run the damn thing.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 1:21:19 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Nope. My guess is they will be lucky to find 3 million riders. 10 million is pushing it. It won’t ever be financially viable.

The proponents of high speed rail have to come out with unrealistic and inflated ridership projections to make it sound plausible. But the real world numbers will come nowhere close to the projections.

No one can guarantee people will want to ride it.


7 posted on 12/07/2011 1:33:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

John and Ken on KFI have discovered that the first portion of this “high speed rail” is not high speed at all. It’s just regular rail - not electrified to be high speed. The train to nowhere!


8 posted on 12/07/2011 1:45:25 PM PST by Veggie Todd (I don't mind you hitting me, Frank, but take it easy on the Bacardi.)
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To: SeekAndFind
 

 

9 posted on 12/07/2011 1:48:58 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It should’ve never passed the first time!


10 posted on 12/07/2011 1:50:55 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: goldstategop

If the train goes to the state line it might have plenty of one way riders. Need I say which direction?


11 posted on 12/07/2011 4:00:44 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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