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Archbishop of Canterbury: Let’s face it, Jesus would be part of the Occupy movement
Hotair ^ | 12/07/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/07/2011 7:33:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Really? Didn’t Jesus have a job?

Blessed are they who took out $150,000 in student loans to get a degree in Marxist Semiotics.

In a British magazine, the leader of the world’s 78 million Anglicans worldwide insisted that Jesus would be “there, sharing the risks, not just taking sides.”…

In his article written for the Christmas edition of the Radio Times magazine, the archbishop said Jesus was “constantly asking awkward questions” in the Bible.

In the St. Paul’s encampment, Williams added, Jesus would be “steadily changing the entire atmosphere by the questions that he asked of everybody involved — rich and poor, capitalist and protester and cleric.”

The archbishop said that when Jesus said “give Caesar what belongs to Caesar,” he was asking “what’s the exact point at which involvement in the empire of capitalist economy involves you fatally.”

The first question to be asked: “Can everyone please stop crapping on the floor of the cathedral?” He’s actually not the first Christian authority to nod at the Occupy movement — the Vatican’s Pontifical Council released a critique of the global financial system a few weeks ago that seemed timed to capitalize on the global attention to OWS — but I’m intrigued by his read on rendering unto Caesar, as that’s unfailingly cited by Christians on our side of the aisle whenever liberals claim Jesus would be a tax-and-spend redistributionist liberal. He seems to be suggesting that “Caesar” isn’t the state but capitalism itself, and that because “Caesar” wants more than what belongs to it, we have to deny it by turning to — what? Christianity? Higher taxes? A dingy tent city in front of St. Paul’s? Why would Jesus want to become an occupier instead of getting the occupiers to become Christians? Ever get the feeling that Rowan Williams isn’t totally confident in his own belief system?

Exit question: Is Obama maybe just trying to help the rich get into heaven? Look out for an “eye of the needle” reference in his next big class warfare speech!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: archbishop; archdruid; jesus; occupy; ows; rowanwilliams
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To: Lazamataz

He oughtta donate part of his eyebrows to Ron Paul.


21 posted on 12/07/2011 8:00:45 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m no Christian but it’s hard for me to square what I know about a man who went willingly to a crucifixion to redeem mankind with the whining self-centered cretins who think they are heroes because they poop on sidewalks


22 posted on 12/07/2011 8:03:25 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ever get the feeling that Rowan Williams isn’t totally confident in his own belief system?

Unfortunately, I suspect that Rowan Williams is perfectly and snugly comfortable in his own belief system--it just has no connection to Christian orthodoxy.

For the modern relevancy-seeking, demythologizing deconstructionist, Jesus has had His significance erased, to become little more than a religious Rorschach blot into which (not "into Whom")one may read any significance necessary to justify the current media-driven frenzy into which Those Without Centers find themselves whipped, and which they mistake for a passion for the Kingdom of God--or, more precisely, hope that others will mistake for that passion.

An earlier poster remarked that "the Anglicans have lost it;" but it's a much sadder and more damning truth that the Anglicans have not just lost it, but have been throwing it away with both hands for some time now--at least, many of the professional clergy have been doing so, and seem to think that believe means I am currently of the opinion that this ought to be true.

23 posted on 12/07/2011 8:06:29 AM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: Lazamataz
I agree with everything you wrote; but, may I just add that the other problem Jesus might have is the whole "coveting" thing that seems to be the basic foundation of everything they talk about.

The entire thing is based on greed and jelousy.

24 posted on 12/07/2011 8:06:59 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind

I pray for God to provide a brain to Occupy the archbishops head.


25 posted on 12/07/2011 8:08:15 AM PST by Jukeman (Texas Guy born and bred and proud of it.)
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To: Bidimus1

What always comes to my mind is:
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods. And...
Render to Ceasar.


26 posted on 12/07/2011 8:10:22 AM PST by FES0844
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To: bboop
The Anglicans have jumped the shark.

Long ago, but later than the Latins think (they'll date that to the original break with Rome) and longer ago than most, who fancy it was the embrace of homosexuality (not mere tolerance of, which would be bad enough) or the priesting of women, would suggest.

They jumped the shark when they couldn't condemn "Bishop" Pike for heresy when he denied the Trinity, deciding instead that "heresy is no longer a relevant category" (which in theological matters is equivalent to deciding that truth is no longer a relevant category). Yeah, that was the U.S. bunch, PECUSA, but the Lambeth Conference didn't slap them down, as they should have, if Anglicanism still stood for (even a solid approximation of) the Faith once delivered to the Saints.

The Oxford Movement seems to have been God's last attempt to recall Anglicanism from a slide into apostacy. Now most of the Oxford Movement's spiritual descendants are either Orthodox or Latin. So, be not downcast, you can still check the web for times and hear a good sung Evensong and not have to deal with rank apostacy by turning up at an Anglican Ordinariate parish or most Antiochian Western-Rite parishes.

27 posted on 12/07/2011 8:13:31 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: golux
Two times this week - for the first times in my life - I hear the expression “jump the shark.”

I see your home page bears the French flag. Yes, that expression might have taken a while to spread to Europe. Where did you hear the expression? Did you hear it in French or English?

I'm just wondering if this is one of those English-language expressions that the French will absolutely loathe.

28 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:21 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Small wonder, he's Welsh anyhow. Back in the day they knew full well how to handle occupiers of the big house in Canterbury when they "acted up"

"What sluggards, what cowards have I brought up in my court, who care nothing for their allegiance to their lord. Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest."

/sarc

29 posted on 12/07/2011 8:20:43 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is the Most Reverend Archbishop certain that Jesus wouldn't instead be hobnobbing with folks at the nearest Inland Revenue office? Our Lord was given to eating with tax collectors, but I see no evidence in Holy Tradition, not the canonical Scriptures, nor the lives of saints contemporaneous with Our Lord's earthly ministry, that he had any propensity for supporting or even mingling with political movements of any sort.
30 posted on 12/07/2011 8:20:43 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is he talking about the Jesus that dined with tax collectors?

Just askin’.


31 posted on 12/07/2011 8:21:52 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Archbishop of Canterbury: Let’s face it, Jesus would be part of the Occupy movement

Clearly the Archbishop is unfamiliar
with YHvH and his WORD !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
33 posted on 12/07/2011 8:30:44 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t this the same guy who said more or less that belief in the Resurrection is unnecessary?


34 posted on 12/07/2011 8:36:09 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Jesus wasn’t willing to support the Jewish Zealot movement of his time he certainly wouldn’t support the OWS movement.


35 posted on 12/07/2011 8:48:25 AM PST by circlecity
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To: bboop
This guy is undoubtedly trying to take all the credit for the "Occupy....." rapes and murders away from Elizabeth Warren ~

I doubt it would be possible to be more willfully ignorant.

36 posted on 12/07/2011 8:49:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Matthew 6:33
New King James Version (NKJV)

33” But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things (food and clothing) shall be added to you.”

This Jesus?


37 posted on 12/07/2011 9:00:35 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It hurts to talk bad about Anglicans because my favorite Catholic was one: G.K. Chesterton and C.S. Lewis who remained one, wasn’t too bad either. As a matter of fact his “Mere Christianity” once properly rediscovered is what’s gonna help the Brits come back to their senses.

But today’s variety... bah!

Jesus is with everyone who sincerely opens his heart to Him. He loves us... and I don’t know why, and it oftentimes pisses me off, but even just thinking about Him in a sort of never-never nebula-land of atheism, agnosticism, superstition, indifference - I mean just occasionally peeking through the keyhole almost like a voyeur, on the sacred, already begins to WORK WONDERS. Sneak a peek and if you’re ready it’ll rock your world! (Amen)


38 posted on 12/07/2011 9:10:53 AM PST by Youaskedforit
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The Christ IS ALREADY the movement infinitely beyond any piddly OWS movement, Tea Party movement, or anything politics.


39 posted on 12/07/2011 9:13:50 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do the Brits have any sense of shame left? Why is this guy still the head of the Anglican church?


40 posted on 12/07/2011 9:42:39 AM PST by Ford4000
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