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LET'S GET REAL: A Newt Gingrich Nomination Would Be A Disaster For The Republican Party
Business Insider ^ | 112811 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 11/28/2011 12:32:23 PM PST by Fred

Newt Gingrich is now suddenly the candidate to beat Mitt Romney. And conservatives are said to be "salivating" at the chance of watching him debate President Obama.

But the truth is that a Newt Gingrich nomination would be a disaster for the Republican party: He cannot win.

And it would be a major setback to conservative causes, because Newt Gingrich tarnishes the right's ideals with his obvious corruption.

Let's take those two one at a time.

He cannot win:

The New Hampshire Union Leader credits Newt Gingrich with engineering the 1994 Republican Revolution when Republicans took their first majority in Congress in 50 years and Newt ascended to the role of Speaker.

But Gingrich deserves more credit for ship-wrecking that Revolution. Within just two years, Newt Gingrich shut-down the government and his approval rating dropped to just 25 percent. It never recovered.

By 1997, Gingrich was facing dozens of ethics charges. Although many of them were dismissed, he was fined an unprecedented $300,000 by the House Ethics Committee (still run by Republicans at the time), and admitted to giving "inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee." Newt did this precisely during a time he was trying to impeach the president for perjury.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; amnesty; gingrich; mandate; newt2012; newtcare; obamacare; rino; romneycare
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To: Fred

Obama wets himself at the thought of having to debate Gingrich.


181 posted on 11/28/2011 5:48:44 PM PST by TSgt ("Romney" means "rino cult" in Kenyan)
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To: cuban leaf

lol.

Obama not the Dem nominee?

Has anyone else even filed to run?


182 posted on 11/28/2011 5:53:28 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: All

“By 1997, Gingrich was facing dozens of ethics charges. Although many of them were dismissed, he was fined an unprecedented $300,000 by the House Ethics Committee (still run by Republicans at the time), and admitted to giving “inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee.” Newt did this precisely during a time he was trying to impeach the president for perjury.”

I’ve pretty much given up trying to bring rationality to the discussion of who our 2012 nominee should be.

We have dumb, dumber, and dumbest being supported by the media. Our folks haven’t demonstrated the ability to hold Conservative tenets front and center. We’re poised to once again loft a Bush Sr, Dole, Bush, or McCain type figure to make sure a real conservative doesn’t get the nod in 2012.

Our side will never learn. The Left chooses our candidates, and we rubber stamp them. And then just for chuckles, some of our group tosses out glowing comments about someone who isn’t running, as if they may just save the day.

Lord have mercy...


183 posted on 11/28/2011 5:56:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: over3Owithabrain
So dummies go for the fraud Newt and the Left pulls out the 30 years of skeletons on Newt with both barrels.

Are you really this dense?

I suppose when you ran this by both brain cells this made sense to you, right?

184 posted on 11/28/2011 6:01:38 PM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Fred
Threads like this make it perfectly clear to me that the Republican nominee, whomever it is, will not win the General election anyway. That said, Obama’s second term will be even more disastrous than the first and so it starts to make you think that, maybe we should all just stay home or vote third party or something just stop supporting the Republicans and allow Obama to stay in there, I mean it is a huge mess and he is just going to make it worse anyway so let him take the fall for all this right? Maybe in 2016, we will get Palin or some other true Conservative to bring the country back from the abyss.

The only problem with that is this... http://www.usdebtclock.org/2015-current-rates.html nearly 24 Trillion in debt in 2015 at current rates closer to 30 trillion by the time the next President will get sworn in.

Current revenue will not even be enough to pay the interest payments on this debt. The entitlement programs will effectively crash the dollar and it will end as the world reserve currency, once that happens the standard of living in this country will plummet, austerity will ensue, riots, chaos and complete collapse.

Unfortunately, the country will probably be able to hold it together until just about 2016 when the Republican takes charge. This will be carefully orchestrated by the Democrats so that the entire collapse can be effectively blamed on the Republican by the Liberals.

Bribery of the electorate over the last 70 years has had consequences and those chickens are quickly coming home to roost.

As for me I am a Cain supporter, the media has done a great job of destroying his character but the one thing that Cain had that no one else did, was a desire to radically change the structure of our debt. The 999 plan would have removed the power and control of money away from the politicians and put it back in the hands of the People that cannot be denied and yet not one of our nominees are even really talking about any radical changes to fix the debt, not one, who wants to be the one to take all the goodies away from the OWS crowd?

If we don't do something dramatic and radical not this debt committee crap that just picks around the edges but seriously radical change. Than the direction that we are headed and the trajectory of our debt means that we are toast. It doesn't take an MBA to figure this stuff out just digest the data it's all right at your fingertips..... www.usdebtclock.org

185 posted on 11/28/2011 6:27:23 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (Democrat socialist engineering of America is treason.)
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To: Osage Orange
>> Well....one is a Muslim. <<

But even he campaigns as a "Christian"... who can forget his pastor, Rev. Jermimah Wright? The fact a candidate touts their "Christian" faith means little in the U.S.A.

186 posted on 11/28/2011 6:37:09 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: napscoordinator; fieldmarshaldj; rabscuttle385
>> I don’t know about that. Clinton just endorsed Newt yesterday. He really was talking very positive about the guy. <<

He loves Ricardo too. I'll give that to Clinton, he's more astute that alot of freepers and realizes what these guys were really like in office and what happens when they face liberals. Slick Willie really relishes the thought of a Perrista/Gingriez ticket:

Bill Clinton 'Tickled' To See Rick Perry Enter Race

Bill Clinton praises Rick Perry on immigration

187 posted on 11/28/2011 6:51:49 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Fred

Newt’s comments in illegal aliens places him to the left of the other candidates. He is smart and knows full well the damage his policy would do could not, unlike Obamacare, be undone.


188 posted on 11/28/2011 6:53:58 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: BillyBoy

Didn’t the Republican Party refuse to support Harris? I think so because she wasn’t a Republican rino insider.


189 posted on 11/28/2011 7:23:49 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: GeronL

—Obama not the Dem nominee?—

It’s because I don’t expect him to finish his first term. He may be the Dem nominee for a time, but not in the usual sense of the word.


190 posted on 11/29/2011 5:32:08 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: terycarl

Knowing that some people will utterly refuse to support Romney no matter how much bleating comes from the GOP Old Boys’ Club then why risk having Romney as the nominee unless your intention is to see Obama re-elected?

Because, like I said, I am not voting for Romney.

Let me rephrase that: If confronted with the choice of casting a vote for Romney or of hacking off my right hand with a meat cleaver I’d ask you to sharpen the cleaver for me.


191 posted on 11/29/2011 8:46:21 AM PST by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: af_vet_rr
If Mitt wins the nomination, You're sadly mistaken if you think a lot of us are going to continue supporting an increasingly liberal GOP. We did it in 2008, but no more. Maybe Conservatives are the true RINOs, in which case it's time to look elsewhere.

like where??? you know the history of third parties in this country....won't work, at least not at this late stage in the election cycle. McCain would have been far superior to Obama as president, not perfect of course, but when faced with the option of another four years of socialism destroying this country vs a less than perfect Romney, the choice is clear, at least to me it is.

192 posted on 11/29/2011 11:46:15 AM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl
like where??? you know the history of third parties in this country....won't work, at least not at this late stage in the election cycle.

I'm a Conservative first and a Republican second. From now on I'm supporting only Conservatives. If they have an (R) next to their name, great! If they don't, maybe it'll wake the GOP up.

but when faced with the option of another four years of socialism destroying this country vs a less than perfect Romney, the choice is clear, at least to me it is.

When are people like you going to get it through your heads that Romney IS a lighter version of socialism?

Maybe not in your world, but in my world, a liberal with an (R) next to their name is still a liberal. You're acting like it's better to drown in 15 feet of water than 20 feet of water - when the problem is that you're still drowning.

I'm lucky if I have 20 years left on this earth, and I'm not going to waste my time voting for liberals just because they have an (R) next to their name.

If the GOP wants Mitt Romney, screw the GOP.
193 posted on 11/29/2011 12:44:42 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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