Cain and the black vote: wishful thinking (Blacks give Obama 91% approval rating today)

The Washington Post ^ | 11-22-2011 | Jonathan Capehart

[TitansAFC]

Herman Cain is at it again, making bold pronouncements that fly in the face of actual evidence to the contrary. This time in a seven-page mailer to Iowa Republicans, the flagging Republican front-runner lists a few reasons why he says he can win the GOP nomination for president.....

...It’s that kind of delusional talk that reinforces the image I conjured up last week of Cain running for president of the Land of Make-Believe. Only there could he hope to surpass, let alone replicate, President Eisenhower’s remarkable (by today’s standards) electoral success with African Americans.

Keep something in mind about that 41 percent of blacks who cast a vote for Eisenhower. That’s 41 percent of blacks who COULD vote in 1956. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 did away with the discriminatory laws that blocked many African Americans from exercising their right to vote.

And then there’s this. On Sunday, The Post’s Chris Cillizza (a.k.a. The Fix) penned an article about how “President Obama’s base of support remains solid heading into 2012.” Here are the three paragraphs that punch holes in Cain’s argument that he “can lead the Republican party to victory” with a large share of black votes.

At the heart of the president’s enduring strength among his base are African Americans who have never wavered in any meaningful way after 95 percent of black voters opted for the Illinois senator in 2008. In Gallup’s latest weekly tracking polling, Obama’s job approval rating stands at 43 percent among the general public but is nearly double that — 84 percent —among African Americans. In the November NBC-WSJ poll, Obama’s approval rating among black voters stood at a stratospheric 91 percent....

[Sacajaweau]

Have been saying that from the beginning. Obama would love to have Cain has an opponent. Anyone else will beat Obama.

[9YearLurker]

The VP slot generally does a very poor job of pulling in new voters. (Palin may be the exception that proved the rule.) And that’s usually how even something as positive as a Reagan Revolution gets diluted by the follow-on of Bushian big government.

[throwback]

Obama’s job approval rating stands at 43 percent among the general public but is nearly double that — 84 percent

Here are some other numbers: On Jan. 1, 2009, the national black unemployment rate was 12.6 percent. When President Barack Obama signed into law the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act a little over six weeks later, the black unemployment rate was 13.4 percent. As of 9/1/2011 it was 16%.

He is an awesome president if you're on welfare, though. If Cain can't attract the black vote, it's either because blacks are stupid or they're on welfare. Is that what Mr. Capehart would have us believe?

[Longbow1969]

Lets stop with the “lots of blacks will vote for Cain because he’s black” thing. Many don’t directly say it, but underpinning Herman’s campaign is some conservative belief in this nonsense.

90-95% of blacks are going to vote for Obama just like they did last time around. Blacks may be utterly ignorant, but they aren’t stupid. They vote for Democrats because they support transfer payments, government favoritism and other freebies. At the heart of voting Democrat is the idea they are being put upon by the rest of society and deserve special government treatment to make things fair. Cain preaches the opposite and will not win their support. Blacks consider Cain a race traitor. Listen to black radio sometime to get an understanding of how much they detest Cain and people like him. We are going to get the same tiny percentage of the black vote no matter which Republican wins the nomination. I think it is even arguable we’d get LESS black votes if Cain was our candidate. Blacks are liable to resent having one of their own tell them the truth, which will make Obama’s pitch even more attractive to them.

[RockinRight]

That, too is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

[truthguy]

This is frustrating, to say the least, but a sad reality.

Obama will retain 95%+ of the black vote no matter who we nominate.

Yes, I've said this time and again. The black voter has sold his soul to the Democrats and the modern welfare state. This is the major obstacle to many as they try to advance economically.

The black voter will push the D-button no matter what. Obama got just over 43% of the white vote in 2008. If a Republican presidential candidate could get just 25% of the black vote, they could be assured of the election victory. This is due to the face that blacks represent the "swing" vote in a number of important states.

We could have 40% unemployment, 50% inflation, bread and soup lines (we already have a few), power blackouts & brownouts (again we already have a few) and over 90% of blacks are gonna vote Democratic (any Democrat) and with Obama running it's gonna be close to 95% of the vote.

If anyone doubts this look at the situation in Washington D.C. with Marion Berry. I need say no more.

[MNJohnnie]

Looks like the Newt Cult is in full scale panic mode. Unable to make a rational response to Newt stepping in it on Immigration, they resort to their standard SOP, personal attack, obfuscation and diversion.

[bill1952]

How on EARTH does ANY demographic of ANY kind vote so homogenously?

Its called Racism.

See the elephant in the room yet? - the one that will destroy us?

The only race where racism is not allowed is the White race.

Everyone else applaudes racism, either unabashedly open, or under a different euphemism such as "pride."

Hispanics are pretty solid with La Raza. - The Race.

Would you say that Eric Holder is not an open racist?

[Jay Santos CP]

There are no words in the English language that can describe this condition.

Sure there is. It's unabated tribalism, along with deep distrust and frequently hatred toward those outside the tribe. Cain, just as an example, is a tribal outcast.

[TitansAFC]

Palin actually brought a chunk of female voters, but Obama brought more youth and black turnout than we could match.

Lieberman brought a lot of Jewish Republicans to the Democrat column in the 2000 election.

You can make a difference there, but you have to choose wisely and choose movable demographics.

[Longbow1969]

If Cain can't attract the black vote, it's either because blacks are stupid or they're on welfare. Is that what Mr. Capehart would have us believe?

And what would you have us believe? That Cain is uniquely suited to attract black votes because he's black? Wouldn't they be equally stupid for voting for a candidate only because he is of the same skin color?

Blacks vote Democrat because they want to continue believing the sorry state of their communities is other peoples fault. That is the Democratic message and it is extremely appealing to them. Blacks believe they are owed something, they believe in transfer payments, they believe in government preference, they believe in MORE affirmative action. There is absolutely no evidence available, polling or otherwise, that blacks have had a chance in heart. Cain would do just as bad among blacks as any other potential Republican nominee. This Cain campaign message that he can win 30% of the black vote is utterly ridiculous.

[Iron Munro]

For most blacks, black skin trumps all else.

Legitimate criticism of Obama just strengthens his black solidarity and support.

Most blacks pay no attention to the facts or validity of criticism directed at Obama or his policies.

It is easier and more self-serving to just view it as racism.

[truthguy]

...They (Blacks) vote for Democrats because they support transfer payments, government favoritism and other freebies. At the heart of voting Democrat is the idea they are being put upon by the rest of society and deserve special government treatment to make things fair. Cain preaches the opposite and will not win their support. Blacks consider Cain a race traitor...

Longbow, You hit the bulls-eye.

I said pretty much the same thing in my previous comment though I didn't put it as well as you did. It will take a generational change(if ever) in the mindset of blacks before we see any change in this.

Again
At the heart of voting Democrat(Black) is the idea they are being put upon by the rest of society and deserve special government treatment to make things fair.

White Democrats know and understand this very well and they (and their allies in the MSM) will milk this for all it's worth.

[bray]

WaPo polls are always so accurate.

Pray for America

[hosepipe]

Negrodamus was elected BECAUSE he was black.. ONLY because he was black...
If the black vote is not racist I don’t know what is..

Most all democrats and not a few republican women voted for Negrodamus..
He got the racist vote..

Literally the ONLY vetting of Negrodamus that happened was from the ranks of republican MEN(mostly).. not all republican women but still many of them.. were hornswoggled by Negrodamus.. the republican “blond” vote.. You know compassionate pseudo-conservatives..

This time I’m looking for the meanest SOB in the election cycle..
Which of course would be... Newt “the Devil” Gingrich...
Old Slewfoot, “Satan”.. Damocles.. Old Silver Tongue..

I want a contest between Negrodamus vs. Groinodamus..

[RoadTest]

Well, there are lies, statistics and polls. Take your pick, but consider the source.

[ScottinVA]

Obama could borrow David Duke`s Grand Wizard garb, give a speech on how he perceived black voters to be slaves on the democrat plantation, and still get more than 90% of the black vote.

[rogue yam]

Obama will retain 95%+ of the black vote no matter who we nominate.

We will have to wait and see what actually happens if Herman Cain is our nominee, but I would be very surprised if he didn't get significantly more than 5% of the black vote.

Many blacks are devout Christians, many oppose abortion, many oppose gay marriage, and many are concerned about the rates of welfare dependency, criminality and out-of-wedlock childbirth among young blacks. What do Obama and the 'Rats offer blacks who hold these values?

Herman Cain is an honest, intelligent, hard-working, devout man who has made his own way through this world. He is a role model for all Americans.

Obama is a corrupt, incompetent punk and a charlatan.

Blacks who are moral, clear-thing people who value self-reliance and fair play will regard Herman Cain favorably as compared to Obama.

[org.whodat]

Post 30 is total made up in your mind bs, nothing more. So stop making up facts and stick to the truth. But you are in full panic mode over the coming newt slide. Poor thing.

To think you have some mystic link into what black people will do over voting for Cain is ignorance, but the fact is if he peeled 5% of the black vote, obummer would lose bigger than moon-dale. If he lost 5 % of the vote and 5% stay home, he does not win in any of the 57 States.

[Gadsden1st]

“Blacks who are moral, clear-thing people who value self-reliance and fair play will regard Herman Cain favorably as compared to Obama.”

The 5% of Blacks who are moral, clear-thing people who value self-reliance and fair play will regard Herman Cain favorably as compared to Obama.

There...fixed it for you.