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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate on National Security 8 P.M. EST 11/22/11 on CNN
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/22/2011 3:37:12 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, the theme of tonight's Republican presidential debate is foreign policy and national security.

The debate is being held at Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C.

CNN is carrying the debate live at 8 p.m. EST.

Participating candidates are: businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, Reps. Ron Paul (TX) and Michele Bachmann (MN), former Gov. Jon Huntsman, and former Sen. Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; 2012gopdebate; bachmann; cain; cnngopdebate; debate; elections; gingrich; gop; gopdebate; gopsecuritydebate; huntsman; nationalsecurity; nationsecurity; paul; perry; romney; ronpaul; santorum
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To: lquist1

“As for Newt, I thought it was courageous for him to bring this up and be willing to take the heat for it-knowing what the reaction would be in threads like”

Where’s Newts compassion for the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs and would do most of the jobs these illegals now have.

These illegals are taking jobs that most Americans will now do to survive!


1,701 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:00 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: icwhatudo

glad you sent that to all.


1,702 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:00 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: womanvet

The Soviet Union did not attack my countrymen. Islamic terrorists did. We could clearly see the Soviet Union coming had they tried to attack. Without the Patriot Act? Good luck identifying terrorists until AFTER thousands of your countrymen are murdered.

That is of course, if you give a crap.


1,703 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:14 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: not2worry
I vote your post as the post of the day! I could'nt have said it better myself!
1,704 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:41 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: kristinn

Rerun starting now on CNN. Missed the live run, but it sounds like Newt finally discussed him amnesty plans for all debate watchers to consider.


1,705 posted on 11/22/2011 8:11:19 PM PST by Will88
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To: kristinn

Based on what I have seen thus far of these candidates, if I were able to choose the president it would be Bachmann followed by Santorum in 2nd place. But since I can’t choose, I would pick Gingrich as the nominee because he will be able to destroy Obama in a debate and, more importantly, be able to keep the media honest DURING the debates. Debates are critical as they are one of the few opportunities to break through liberal/media lies.

Perry is too dumb. Cain is likable and competent, but a lightweight. Still don’t know why Huntsman is on the stage. Romney is the 2nd best debater but is who the democrats want to face - healthcare is a big part of the reason.


1,706 posted on 11/22/2011 8:11:51 PM PST by PAR
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To: mylife
Alabama has bigtime issues.

The law hasn't improed the situation, then?

1,707 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:00 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: OneVike
Newt understands the mindset of Americans, and when it comes down to it, the election against Obama will also be against the MSM's ability to formulate the debate.

I agree....I think he does too...and he does consider the American people in what he determines best for the whole country. We hear this often as he lays out his plans.

I do think we're all concerned how the MSM frames these debates. Apparently Wolff wanted those not in front to be heard tonight and that's pretty much what happened. But a foolish idea when this was being aired Internationally.. and our country needs so much to be seen with it's strongest candidates.

The media is certainly against the Republicans and for that my disdain for them is unending.

1,708 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:32 PM PST by caww
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To: xzins
A 3rd group thinks there is middle ground between amnesty and deportation. (No...it's not amputation.)
The middle ground is a legitimate worker program that is truly a legitimate worker program and not a secret code word for amnesty.

And then there's the fourth group - the group I am in - who believes that no one entering this country who is not on the legitimate path to citizenship should be given any government handout whatsoever, including education and public health care. Cut off the welfare, and you cut off the undesirable immigrants. The ones who chose to remain and work towards citizenship will turn out to be better Americans than a majority of our current citizens.

1,709 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:35 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: editor-surveyor
It's total stupidity,

Absolutely!

From the totally stupid Human Events

From the totally stupid Wall Street Journal

From the totally stupid Heritage.org

1,710 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:53 PM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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To: CynicalBear

Giving these criminal invaders a “legal path” just encourages more to come.

We have to totally stop the employment of illegal aliens. They will leave.


1,711 posted on 11/22/2011 8:13:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: tennmountainman
That means former unemployed Americans will do most of the jobs the illegals were doing. With so many Americans who have lost jobs, it is important that we protect our own.

Exactly. Unemployment is down in Alabama because the poultry plants and farmers have lost their source of cheap labor. And that is a good thing.

1,712 posted on 11/22/2011 8:13:16 PM PST by South40
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To: antceecee

Are you prepared to be the forgotten party in fifteen years? Deport every illegal regardless of circumstance and you will hand political power to the anti-American democrats for the rest of your lifetime. You really are portraying the exact hate-filled image the DNC paints of Republicans. Makes me doubt you’re even a conservative.


1,713 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Mouton
It's not relevant whether Syria is a big player in world oil, what's relevant is whether oil exports are important to Syria. And they are. And Cain was talking about getting our allies to not buy from Syria.

But don't worry, you're not the only one who mis-heard him, and you're not the only one who was ready to jump on him for “being wrong.”

It turns out he was right.

1,714 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:59 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If Perry had been asked about the Cain 999 plan, he would have said: 9, 9, .......what?)
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To: FreeReign

I call it a temporary visa that gets them in the system, and puts them at the back of the line.

That is what Perry has said.

We had migrant workers when I was a kid in the 60’s in Ohio.
They came, they went, they weren’t citizens , and I don’t recall serious crime.

I have a brother on a visa in India.
He is trying to bring his family back here.
When they come, they will be on a visa until they become citizens, should they qualify.

I would think they qualify. They are family of a US citizen.
Born and raised here.


1,715 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:59 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Irish Eyes

“You need to blame the Federal Government on that one. It is the same here in Arizona”

Right, and you well know what happens to a state that tries to protect its own border, with this traitorous administration. It gets sued by Obama/Holder, that’s what.


1,716 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:18 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: MHGinTN
I don't know here you live but come to Florida. They represent the largest number of criminals and the over burden our State with our having to provide them with everything from food, medical care, education and housing! The majority can't speak English. Those American Mexicans who came in thru legal process resent those here living the good lIfe they had to work for.
1,717 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:28 PM PST by not2worry
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To: okie01
The law hasn't improed the situation, then?

You know it has.

See post#1653

1,718 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:38 PM PST by South40
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To: All
I watched the debate, then finished reading all your replies. CNN is saying Newt won the debate. I know most of you are upset about Newt's remarks about illegal people being here. However, he told the truth, the way it is. Those who have been here many years and are not criminals, can't be sent back - it will never happen. One has to look at the reality instead of giving an emotional response, “send um all back!”, that can't be done.

He says secure the borders so no more come, send back the criminals and those who recently got here and I don't know “how recent” that would be. I suppose a limit would be set - like being here 10 years, or whatever years, and being assimilated in the community in good standing.

That's really all we can hope for and Newt knows it. Sometimes the truth hurts, but the truth, reality, is what he said.

1,719 posted on 11/22/2011 8:16:34 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Obama in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: okie01

Not in my opinion.

They just got a basket of new woes.


1,720 posted on 11/22/2011 8:17:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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