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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate on National Security 8 P.M. EST 11/22/11 on CNN
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/22/2011 3:37:12 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, the theme of tonight's Republican presidential debate is foreign policy and national security.

The debate is being held at Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C.

CNN is carrying the debate live at 8 p.m. EST.

Participating candidates are: businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, Reps. Ron Paul (TX) and Michele Bachmann (MN), former Gov. Jon Huntsman, and former Sen. Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; 2012gopdebate; bachmann; cain; cnngopdebate; debate; elections; gingrich; gop; gopdebate; gopsecuritydebate; huntsman; nationalsecurity; nationsecurity; paul; perry; romney; ronpaul; santorum
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To: mylife
In other words the Alabama law accomplished nothing. It only shifted the problem.

If the trend continues, only blue states will have an illegal alien problem.

That's OK by me.

1,621 posted on 11/22/2011 7:46:45 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: caww
Jane...do you honestly believe this government is going to deport 30 million people? Grasp that number becuase even if that were possible you can beat we’d have a war from them and they will recruit all the other illegals here to stop us from doing that. It’s not going to happen Jane...the “Invasion” is completed....now what to do with them to keep them from rising up is the question.

Are you really a member of the appeasement crowd? Are you willing to throw in the towel like that? Isn't our country worth more than being "invaded" (your words)?

How do we "deport" 20+M Illegals? Like Arizona and Alabama have done. It's simple. Take away the magnets (jobs, free education, free healthcare, welfare).

Don't knock it until we've tried it.

Once we take away the magnets and truly secure the border we can then look at guest worker programs for those who truly appreciate and want to be here...temporarily, or until they become legal.

1,622 posted on 11/22/2011 7:47:14 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: xzins

A work visa is not amnesty.

It is a visa.


1,623 posted on 11/22/2011 7:47:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Grunthor; Tribune7

>> “Well Newt won this debate” <<

>> “Amnesty isn’t amnesty?” <<

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The liberals here always think “Noot won the debate,” but to the American people noot is the big loser. When he was disgraced out of office, the people got to see who and what he is. He is toast as far as the general election goes, but the GOP’s standard deathwish could get that turd nominated, if for no other reason than to preserve the elite establishment’s power.


1,624 posted on 11/22/2011 7:47:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: caww

“Yep...me too...and they haven’t a clue of the reality of the illegal numbers, nor the reality it’s never going to be a matter of sending them all home...they refuse to face the reality their “Dream” of our nation being without Hispanics is just never going to happen. You cannot send 30 million people back ...can you imagine the rising up they would do against this? “

Well, I’m not sure their “dream” is a Hispanic-free America. There are good people that IMHO just take a more simplistic view of this issue and say “send them all home” without really thinking through how that would ever be accomplished. What I think is more shameful is the obvious pandering to this group by Romney and Bachmann. Speaking of which, I find it strange that those two never seem to end up on opposite sides of an issue, but I digress.

As for Newt, I thought it was courageous for him to bring this up and be willing to take the heat for it-knowing what the reaction would be in threads like this and across the conservative spectrum. He is right though-the reality is you’re not gonna be able to send 30 million people home, and AFTER we get the border secured, we’re gonna have to decide what to do with all these people, and there may need to be some lines drawn. Good people can disagree on this, but I really don’t think this is an unreasonable position. And as an undecided, it didn’t make my view of Newt any less favorable.


1,625 posted on 11/22/2011 7:48:01 PM PST by lquist1
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To: kristinn

Newt is the clear winner tonight.
Romney has a tough road ahead as he and Newt
will be last 2 contenders at the end of the day.


1,626 posted on 11/22/2011 7:48:10 PM PST by indpndtguy
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To: Jane Long

” OK, Rita...you’ve surveyed the ENTIRE country about this? That’s funny, because actual poll after poll seems to disagree with....you. “ <<<<

So, that must be why those at the top of our polls are where they are—because they are all FOR mass deportation, according to your “poll after poll”. Oh. I forgot. Those leading in our polls are, actually, NOT for mass deportation. Go figure.

Now about your poll and all those details you included about your “poll after poll”, I can surmise that the results were indeed showing majorities are in agreement with Rick and Newt that the border needs to be secured. But mass deportation? Not. Hardly.


1,627 posted on 11/22/2011 7:48:27 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: mylife

Here’s insult added to injury: that brunette on CNN just said if Newt had vocalized Perry’s ideas that they’d be taken with much more gravitas.

So it’s not about practical and implemented ideas, it’s about who can theoretically yak about them most efficiently.


1,628 posted on 11/22/2011 7:48:43 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Jane Long
Once we take away the magnets and truly secure the border we can then look at guest worker programs for those who truly appreciate and want to be here...temporarily, or until they become legal.

Now that's crazy talk. /s

I agree.

1,629 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:01 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: MHGinTN

Yep!

It’s not our job to control who enters Mexico but it sure as hell IS our job to control who enters the USA!


1,630 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:28 PM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: MHGinTN

Anyone know if CNN is running the debate again online ???


1,631 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:28 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: indpndtguy

Newt comes out for amnesty ... and you think he won?

ROFL


1,632 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:28 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: montag813

Just go to youtube and watch the uprisings at over just one deportation of a student who grew up here.....you’re dreaming clouds and fluffy stuff if you think they wouldn’t rise up....

Further view the the protest marches when amnesty was front and center....if you start deportations in mass these will be nothing by comparison.

Stupid?...the evidence proves otherwise.


1,633 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:35 PM PST by caww
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To: Grunthor
“If you served in the Army, how can you sit there and claim that your life is more important than your freedom?”
Should I be happy to be dead if my corpse is “free?”

So, during the Cold War you would have agreed "Better Red than dead?"
1,634 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:40 PM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is STILL Romney. Don't settle for evil; beat Obama with a Cain)
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To: RitaOK

Actually, only Newt and Bachmann actually went on record tonight talking about deporting illegals.


1,635 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:41 PM PST by TitansAFC (Doug Hoffman says it's good to support Newt, so stop being mad on his behalf when he doesn't want it)
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To: editor-surveyor

Don’t be shocked when Ron (The eyebrow) Paul, or John (Pretty Girls) Huntsman wins NH.


1,636 posted on 11/22/2011 7:49:59 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: okie01

LOL!

But it doesn’t secure the border!


1,637 posted on 11/22/2011 7:50:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Graewoulf

Unfortunately, the German specialists on resettlements are like General Franco no longer available, and even their record on this amounts to perhaps only 10 million in 5 years in fully militarized zones.

I’m sure some of the Newt/Perry haters here have some practical ideas on how to accomplish this deportation thingy, for the 12, 20, or 30 millions of the inferior races that have invaded us and the haters’ precious paradisic reality.


1,638 posted on 11/22/2011 7:50:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Playing the race card? Are you sure you’re not a lib?


1,639 posted on 11/22/2011 7:51:13 PM PST by PAConservative1 (Myth, Ricardo, and AmNEWTsty - NON STARTERS!)
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To: caww; Jane Long

>> “...do you honestly believe this government is going to deport 30 million people?” <<

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Bet on it! - They’ll deport themselves when enforcement dries up the jobs.

You ‘Noot’ surrender monkies are disgusting.


1,640 posted on 11/22/2011 7:51:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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