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Posted on 11/17/2011 10:58:22 AM PST by TBBT
Rasmussen’s latest poll in Iowa gives Newt Gingrich a big claim to legitimacy in the Republican nomination fight, but it also is pretty good news for Mitt Romney as well. Among likely caucus-goers, Gingrich now leads Romney 32/19, with Herman Cain dropping more than half of his previous support:
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul draws 10% of the vote in Iowa, while Texas Governor Rick Perry and Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann each grab six percent (6%).
Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum draws support from five percent (5%) of caucus-goers while former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman picks up two percent (2%). Only one percent (1%) would prefer some other candidate and six percent (6%) more are undecided.
This is the first primary survey conducted entirely after last week’s GOP debate on foreign policy. Cain also recently fumbled a response to the administration’s actions in Libya.
This comes from a sample of 700 respondents, which is larger than the Bloomberg survey released this week showing a four-way tie in Iowa. This survey took place more recently than the Bloomberg poll as well, incorporating the Saturday debate on foreign policy, in which Cain struggled. As far as the Ron Paul surge Bloomberg noted, it seems to have bypassed Rasmussen’s sample. In fact, while Paul continues to hold onto about 10% of the caucus goers in Iowa, he’s not likely to get much more:
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Oh - if you were referring to those who do not vote at all, I misunderstood and withdraw my comment. God would have to change my mind for me to vote for Gingrich. He is quite capable of doing that, if I pay attention.
I must certainly meant that and I believe He could change any of our minds. I exhort you to get out and get active our nation depends on it. Bring your friends and family along too. Too many Christians just wring their hands and expect perfection from others that they themselves fall short of themselves. Getting active politically at the grass roots party is a good thing because you can have a great effect on elections in your state and get the best people. This political struggle is a war and it is time for us to get real tough and grind it out to get rid of these crooks.
I can't tell you how disappointed I am. That a fellow Okie has swallowed the MSM propaganda hook, line and sinker is deeply embarrassing.
Do you really believe that Gov. Palin is a "Neanderthal"? And those who support her are "wild-eyed and illiterate barbarians"?
Is that what you really think of your fellow conservatives? If so, what the hell are you doing here?
Good.
You know what I pray for daily (in addition to my own discernment and obedience)? I pray that Americans-as individuals and as a people, a Nation—recognize and recoil in horror that we have become a people who act according their own understanding and seek their own ends and false idols.
I pray that, instead, we fall on our knees in awareness and confession, genuine repentance, asking forgiveness, and that we seek to know, love, and obey God. That we seek His will in our lives, and act accordingly.
That we, individually and as a people, become righteous in His eyes, so that it pleases Him to guide us, protect us, and prosper us.
Because He does not long do so for people who disregard, disdain, or deny Him.
Stick a fork in Newt he is done.
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So Carnac the magnificent, does this put Cain as a shoe in?
Should Newt even bother running in Iowa?
10 REASONS WHY CAIN IS ABLE
One reason why he’s not...check out his stint as Chairman of the compensation committee for Aquila Corp, partner company of Enron. As the 75 year old company was run into the ground, Cain authorized payment of $30MM bonuses to 5 executives and 30 days later, 500 employees were laid off.
See page 83 of class action-
https://motherjones.com/files/1232_cid_3_amended_consolidated_complaint.pdf
Christians are NEVER expected to vote for evil. You're right about the duty to vote for the most honest folks available in other positions of office, so perhaps my use of the term "stay home" was incorrect.
I will never vote for Romney for president, period. I will write in a candidate if it comes to that. I will not vote for evil thinly disguised as good.
Double YAWN.
We are on the same page about Myth Remulak and I will write in if he is on the ballot. We can still vote the undercard and empower the legislature to deal with OStinkBugula if he gets reelected.
Respectfully disagree with: 1) the cartoon—is your opinion, and I have mine, and 2) your tagline kind of jumps in the middle of the problem.
Admittedly, job are very important! However, they don’t simply come about by government mandate or materialize out of thin air.
There needs to be a framework, consisitng of a series of coordinated financial policies which are consistent, dependable, and long-term. They need to significantly reduce the scope and breadth of government, reduce the cost of regulation and compliance, simplify and reduce taxation, and restore the implicit understanding of the need to work in order to provide for oneself.
Without comprensive action, any jobs created will quickly suffer the same fate as is the case now: way too much government, way too much spending, and too much reduction in the incentive to create more wealth.
My thoughts, anyway.
Your post deserves an answer because education & knowledge make better voters.
“1. He supported TARP”
TARP became necessary since banks were allowed to gamble on derivatives. Bubba Clinton & Robert Rubin were behind removing Glass-Steagall Act which separated investment and commercial banking activities. If so many major banks were allowed to implode, we would all be in a deep depression. It is akin to contacting a serious disease, when serious remedies is the only way out. It is of course better to avoid getting the disease in the first place. But once you contact the disease, you can’t just sit on your fanny because getting the disease was a bad thing.
“2. He endorsed Romney”
Endorsed for what? Cain is in it to win it. So your claim makes no sense.
“Issues 3,4”
Cain has explicitly stated “Life begins at conception”.
Cain backs DOMA 100%
“5. He is a flip-flopper on killing Al Awlaki”
Cain’s opinion is irrelevant since he did not have access
to CIA intelligence. I can’t recall Cain ever saying he is unhappy about Alwaki killing, unlike Ron Paul.
“6. He donated to Democrat politicians in Nebraska”
Welcome to the real world of Main Street. Every successful business donates to politicians who can affect their business. To do otherwise is both stupid and suicidal. I have to assume you never owned a large business.
“7. He has no voting record, so we don’t know which way he would on anything”
Any thinking person can surmise how Cain will act as president based on his thousands of speeches and his web site.
“8. He worked for the Fed”
That is good, so he is quite familiar with banking issues.
My hero is Paul Volcker who saved this country from galloping inflation and thus facilitated Reagan’s economic success. Volcker was Federal Reserve Chairman.
“9. He has high praise for Alan Greenspan”
The economy during Greenspan’s term was working just fine. Unemployment was low, dollar was strong, and Fed acted with much more transparency. If Cain had praise for Bernanke or Geithner, that would be a huge negative for me.
“10. He ripped people who opposed TARP as free market purists”
Read my explanation to item 1.
Appreciate your thoughts and agree with much of them. Reason I am supporting Cain as first choice is mainly because he is the only one running who has successfully saved and created main street jobs. In Cain’s business world, there is no room for deficits or losses. That kills the business along with the jobs. Cain has worked in 3 major corporations in a very high level positions, and each one was a resounding success. I have to believe the man knows how to succeed.
In the end, I will support whoever wins the nomination. Right now in the primary season I am supporting who I think will be best for the country.
And, people certainly are entitled to their reasoned opinions and to come up with different answers and actions. We have done so.
The fact that we can have different understandings—and do it with civility—is appreciated.
Sad to say, it is not always thus . . . .
I’ll vote for Newt (most likely...in CA)...don’t mind if other folks Cain or any other conservative. I just don’t want Romney OR OBAMA!?
Just imagine what they’ll run against Cain. /s
the talk he gave in Iowa last month -
http://www.newt.org/news/video-newt-gingrich-speaks-iowa-faith-and-freedom-coalition-banquet
I hope we will stop the circular firing squads.
We are in the fight of our life. We don’t have the ammunition to waste on each other....
Why I prefer Newt over Cain. The following issues concern me
Cain’s Wife Voted Democrat and YES! FLOTUS play a role in America’s lifestyle or politics
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Cain-Wife-Votes-Democrat/2011/11/04/id/416931
Cain “would have no problem hiring an OPENLY Gay staffer
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/herman-cain-id-hire-an-openly-gay-staffer/
Questionable donations
In 1993, Cain donated $250 to New York Rep. Jose Serrano (D), according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Many consider Serrano one of Congress’ most outspoken defenders of Latin American dictators like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez.
When he was the president of Nebraska-based Godfather’s Pizza, Cain primarily donated to Republican candidates, but he also provided financial support to a Democrats.
“They were business decisions and personal decisions,” Cain said in an interview published last week by Yahoo News.
Cain defended the donations, saying that the beneficiaries were “moderate” Democrats. But when it comes to Latin American politics, Serrano is far from “moderate.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/280470/cains-past-donations-democrats-katrina-trinko
Cain considered voting for Obama in 2008 but instead voted for Romney
In 2008, Cain was asked if he could support Obama for President. He said he could envision doing just that if he would agree to work across the aisle. Really, now. With all we knew about Obama, would any of us have even gave this any thought? Yet a conservative who was intending on running for President would. I hear his supporters say he was proud a black man was going to be President. What happened to “I’m not a black man.” “I’m not an African American”. “I’m a conservative.”
Now in this race, he said he supports Romney. And all indications are that he is doing just that.
CAIN said he would surround himself with top notch advisors...in that case he needs to get rid of Brazil ASAP! http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20111116_Key_figure_in_Philly_bugging_probe_now_top_Cain_aide.html
Cain also made “false allegations,” against the Perry campaign accusing him of being behind the “false allegations,” on HIM.
Enterprise Zones...
Detroit would pay 3 3 3 instead of 9 9 9
His plan, however, was a significant adjustment from how it was initially proposed. In an interview last week, he suggested some leeway to boost economic development. For instance, taxes in struggling areas could be set at 3-3-3 rates, 3 percent in each category.
“Because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit — disproportionately — it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there,” Cain told CNN. “It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, you’re going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes.”
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111021/POLITICS03/110210417/Cain-proposes-to-help-‘empowerment-zones’-such-as-Detroit#ixzz1e0V43lAW
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear or pay Duties in another. So, what part of Article 1, Section 9, Clause 6 does Herman Cain not understand?
And if Article 1, Section 9. Clause 6 is not clear enough for Mr. Cain to understand the founder‘s intentions, and that our federal government is one of defined and limited powers, what part of Federalist No. 45 does Mr. Cain not understand which summarizes our federal government’s job as follows?
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.
The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.
Cain’s proposal on empowerment zones is unconstitutional and violates the 10th ammendment..
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.
Finally, if the above has not sent the message to Mr. Cain that his proposal is tyranny with a smiley-face, then perhaps Herman ought to read what our Supreme Court stated shortly after the Tenth Amendment was adopted
The government of the United States is of the latter description. The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing; if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished, if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed, and if acts prohibited and acts allowed are of equal obligation. It is a proposition too plain to be contested, that the constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it; or, that the legislature may alter the constitution by an ordinary act.
Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.
If the former part of the alternative be true, then a legislative act contrary to the constitution is not law: if the latter part be true, then written constitutions are absurd attempts, on the part of the people, to limit a power in its own nature illimitable.
Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature repugnant to the constitution is void. ____ MARBURY v. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)
9% Individual Flat Tax. http://www.hermancain.com/999
•Gross income less charitable deductions.
•Empowerment Zones will offer ADDITIONAL DEDUCTIONS for those living and/or working in the zone.
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