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1 posted on 11/08/2011 7:53:05 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

speechless.


2 posted on 11/08/2011 7:56:03 PM PST by balch3
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Damn. If that can’t pass in Miss. it can’t pass.


3 posted on 11/08/2011 7:56:22 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

shame.


4 posted on 11/08/2011 7:56:39 PM PST by ken21
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It went too far, even some conservatives didn’t like it. Anytime this type of initiative comes up, it needs to me made clear that a women’s life would never be on the table, as in the case of a tubal pregnacy, for example. The Repulican governor made this same point.


5 posted on 11/08/2011 8:00:03 PM PST by independent in tx
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The majority have been brainwashed to reject basic scientific and biological facts.


6 posted on 11/08/2011 8:02:53 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sad. And our nationwide holocaust continues.


13 posted on 11/08/2011 8:09:50 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There is a mighty judgment coming to this country and it will not be pretty.
15 posted on 11/08/2011 8:11:39 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I voted no on the most convoluted piece of government overreach Ive seen in a long time...just went toooooooooooo far
21 posted on 11/08/2011 8:15:13 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It sounds like the anti-Obama feelings from the 2009 and 2010 elections are gone even in conservative states.


37 posted on 11/08/2011 8:27:52 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; EternalVigilance

It truly is a sad day for the unborn in this country. The personhood movement should never give up, but they have a long way to go if they can’t get it to pass in Mississippi. The libs were out with their spin machine saying that it would ban birth control, IVF, allow women whose lives were threatened to die, and probe into miscarriages. I don’t believe it. Even Fox was in on the spin on this one. The culture of death marches on.


52 posted on 11/08/2011 8:43:51 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I'm sorry that the amendment has gone down to defeat.

And yet, God's Word has not changed since this morning in its imperative requirement that the lives of all innocent persons be equally protected.

The Natural Law premises of the American republic have not changed since this morning, the assertion of the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with the unalienable right to life, and that the first purpose of government is to protect that right.

The stated purposes of the U.S. Constitution, which include the establishment of Justice and the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity, have not changed since this morning.

Just like this morning, the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments still imperatively demand that no person shall be deprived of life without a fair trial on a capital offense.

Just as it has since it was ratified, the Fourteenth Amendment still requires every State in the Union to equally protect the life of every innocent person within their jurisdiction.

And the Mississippi Constitution still demands all of the above as well.

Mississippians, and all Americans, need to wake up to the fact that our lack is not a lack of protection for the people's unalienable rights in our supreme laws, it is a lack of officers in government who will do the first things required of them by their sacred oath of office.

The Equal Protection for Posterity Resolution

54 posted on 11/08/2011 8:44:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Si vis pacem, para bellum." "If you wish for peace, prepare for war.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lot’s of, um, minorities in Miss that, hopefully, use the abortion services.

I know, I know. Going to get banned.


59 posted on 11/08/2011 8:47:24 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll vote for Mitt Romney when Hell freezes over. He's as bad or worse than Zero.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was an all-or-nothing group from Colorado who came in and pushed this. Haley Barbour said if Miss had formulated this initiative on their own with the correct provisions for a mother’s life, it would have passed.


70 posted on 11/08/2011 8:59:16 PM PST by independent in tx
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Sad


100 posted on 11/08/2011 9:26:35 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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On one hand, it is very saddening that this measure did not pass. But on the other hand, if the majority can "rule" that life begins at conception - or that it does not - majority can also rule that life ends at 60, or 70, or if someone is so ill they cannot speak, etc. Mob rule - pure democracy - is not the way our Constitutional Republic is meant to run. Of course, it would be a good sign if the majority of voters in Mississippi understood the difference between life and a lifeless stone, but considering how ignorant many people are about life, and also how many people are easily swayed by leftist propaganda, this vote should not be surprising.

105 posted on 11/08/2011 9:30:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Drafted differently, it might well have won.


136 posted on 11/08/2011 10:24:45 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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If it had passed, it was virtually assured of drawing legal challenges because it conflicts with the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that established a legal right to abortion.

actually, that's not quite true that it conflicts. The Supremes punted on "when life begins" in Roe v Wade. It actually gives the states an out from Roe. If some state does pass it, it may require the Supremes to rule on "when life begins", which they have been loathe to do.
138 posted on 11/08/2011 11:29:42 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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The problem with the MS “life at conception ballot initiative” was that it was very poorly written from both a legal and ethical standpoint. Putting aside for the moment, abortion or even abortion in the rare cases of rape or incest, the way the proposed law was written, it would have made some forms of birth control like the pill or IUD’s “technically” illegal. It would have also made it “technically” a crime to terminate a tubular pregnancy.

It also could have made every miscarriage as possible grounds for a police investigation.

Not to say that such investigations would take place in every circumstance but the way the initiative was worded, it left it open to be interpreted that way.

Think of a woman who has a natural miscarriage but has a family member such as a hateful MIL who calls the police and claims the mother did something to “cause” the miscarriage. Sure, while quite unlikely, the way the proposed law was written, in such a case, the police would be obligated to investigate as a possible homicide.

Sure the pro-abortion folks tried to scare people with this and that is way overreaching but so was the initiative as written.

I am pro-life but OTOH, I don’t want the police, i.e. the state investigating every miscarriage or tubular pregnancy that some zealot or spiteful person deems to bring to their attention. I don’t want to see pharmacists charged as accessories to murder for filling a prescription for the pill or an IUD.

I was a bad law as written and the best MS can do is now go back and write something better; a more reasonable and legally enforceable law that both protects the unborn but doesn’t potentially criminalize miscarriages and tubular pregnancies that have to, in some cases have to be terminated to save the life of the mother.

155 posted on 11/10/2011 5:43:40 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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