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Herman Cain~Newt Gingrich in Lincoln/Douglas-type Debate C-SPAN Sat.11- 5: 8 PM EDT - LIVE THREAD
C-Span ^ | 11-5-2011

Posted on 11/05/2011 3:16:26 PM PDT by blueyon

Republican 2012 presidential candidates Republican 2012 presidential candidates Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich met in a Lincoln-Douglas style debate on current economic and social issues facing the U.S.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; caingingrichdebate; cainmachine; caintrain; debate; frontrunner; gingrich; gop; newtcannotbenominee; vote4newtsawin4obama
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To: CharlesWayneCT

OK, I’m now on the part of the re-broadcast where they are talking about unemployment insurance. And I think both of them faltered in this discussion, although what they said was red meat for the audience.

Realise that “unemployment insurance” has been corrupted by this administration, and a lot of what they said dealt with that corruption of the plan.

But “unemployment insurance” is exactly that. It is an insurance plan, funded by money paid by employeers for each employee. It is meant to provide payments to those employees if the employer has to lay them off for any reason, so they have money while they look for a new job.

There’s no reason what a person collecting THAT form of unemployment insurance should be forced to jump through federal government hoops to keep collecting. And Cain said the “2nd time around” they should only get 13 weeks — but it’s not the employee’s fault if they get a job with another employer, and then THAT employer has to lay them off. So why should each subsequent layoff provide less for insurance?

I wish one of them had pointed out that they were talking NOT about basic unemployment insurance, but the special extra money the federal government threw at the problem.

I did love Cain’s comment about people sitting around waiting for Obama to create a job for them.


1,321 posted on 11/05/2011 9:03:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mylife

Well, at least we won’t be hearing Perry called a RINO anymore. Since Gingrich and Cain call for his exact prescription.


1,322 posted on 11/05/2011 9:03:52 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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Well, I hope the debate airs again, I was distracted during most of it.


1,323 posted on 11/05/2011 9:03:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: txhurl
Perry will tear zero up like a ragdoll.

Aye, aye, aye....

He couldn't even tear Mitt a new one, on a stage full of like-minded Republicans. He bumbled and stumbled all over the place. What makes you think he'd be any match for the Chicago Smoothie?

1,324 posted on 11/05/2011 9:04:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rintense
Yes, stealing his platform, Who is always saying I will show you my plan next week as soon as the staff comes up with one. Hay mr forbes can I borrow your tax plan. Dang!!!!
1,325 posted on 11/05/2011 9:04:47 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

I was not that impressed with Cain or Gingrich parroting Perry’s well known stance.


1,326 posted on 11/05/2011 9:05:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: txhurl

Great. One of getting a couple of things passed after 9 years of giving Texas away to his cronies.


1,327 posted on 11/05/2011 9:05:47 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: txhurl

Bingo.


1,328 posted on 11/05/2011 9:06:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

What are you saying really. You didn’t like these guys talking about their opinions or what? You do understand that it is not a compunction to support their views, correct?


1,329 posted on 11/05/2011 9:06:28 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Proceed with Caution, Darling - we might have a sexual harassment case developing between the two of us!

You got your lawyer on speed dial, pumpkin?

Let me doctor up a cup of tea for you as you file....by the way, did I hear you say you were treating the girls to a Whopper today? If so, I'd prefer a Fish O Lay.

later...............

1,330 posted on 11/05/2011 9:06:41 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: txhurl
"Perry will tear zero up like a ragdoll. The other two... I dunno. They seem more like consensus-builders and reach-across-the-aisle type guys.

That is the problem. Most people don't like to see someone torn up. When that happens they are more likely to defend that person. When differences are shown in a mild mannered but firm way that what the opposition is doing is destroying the country more people will listen.

1,331 posted on 11/05/2011 9:07:21 PM PDT by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: gov_bean_ counter
He was algore’s phone consultant on the Internet.
1,332 posted on 11/05/2011 9:07:42 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

Umm... “Fed up” came out before anyone heard of Herman Cain.

Herman flip flopped on the fence.


1,333 posted on 11/05/2011 9:08:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: org.whodat

Perry also had an interesting nickname as a Democrat representative...


1,334 posted on 11/05/2011 9:08:31 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: mylife

Well known? Wow! I can see that in his poll numbers!


1,335 posted on 11/05/2011 9:08:44 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: mylife

And Newt plays footsie with Pelosi and Cain is a fan of Mittens.

We got some serious cognitive dissonance going on here, man.


1,336 posted on 11/05/2011 9:09:31 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: mylife

So did Perry. He called them silly in 2009.


1,337 posted on 11/05/2011 9:10:26 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: antceecee

...and why there are two alternatives to Mittwitt.


1,338 posted on 11/05/2011 9:10:28 PM PDT by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Rick came across as lost in the ‘debate’ format, which is quite human, but not acceptable at the level of candidacy he’s seeking.


1,339 posted on 11/05/2011 9:10:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: eyedigress

What I am saying is these guys are parroting Perry, and slapping each other on the back like they thought of it first.


1,340 posted on 11/05/2011 9:11:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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