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At What Point Will Herman Cain Be Held To Sarah Palin Standards?
Business Insider ^ | Nov. 2, 2011 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 11/03/2011 12:36:48 PM PDT by presidio9

It's pretty clear that this Herman Cain harassment story does not have any legs. Of the truly damaging kind, anyway. (Unless, of course, this new employee can provide any actual details.)

Here's what appears to be getting lost in that story. Herman Cain's continuing ignorance on foreign policy.

Sure the initial ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan remark made for good late night fodder. But Cain's remarks regarding foreign policy in the last 24 hours should be sounding alarm bells. And they aren't.

Imagine for a moment (as Joe Scarborough did this morning) that Sarah Palin had said in an interview that she was worried about China as a military threat because they've "indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have."

Cain said that last night on PBS. China has had nuclear capability since 1964.

Or declared it was her intention to send war ships into the Persian Gulf and get in a shooting war with Iran. As Cain did on O'Reilly last night.

Palin, meanwhile, was excoriated (and rightly so) for telling Katie Couric she reads "all the papers" and that her foreign policy experience was rooted in the fact Alaska was bordered by foreign countries (hence the SNL line "I can see Alaska from my house").

That interview was so damaging it essentially ended Palin's (and McCain's) White House run. One wonders if Cain would even make headline for anything so mundane.

It's true that Cain is not the official nominee as Palin was. But he has now sustained his lead in the polls for so long that he needs to be treated with some gravitas. Outside of MSNBC the media has been slow to shift to

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; elections; herbcain; hermancain; reevaluategigrich; sarahpalin
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To: buccaneer81

lol,, you too easy!


61 posted on 11/03/2011 1:57:56 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: buccaneer81

lol,, you too easy!


62 posted on 11/03/2011 1:58:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: preamble

The irony of Obama is that he has, for the most part, taken the Bush agenda and expanded it beyond anything Bush, or for that matter probably Cheney, would have done.

Imagine Bush and Uganda. Impeachment hearings would pop up overnight.


63 posted on 11/03/2011 2:00:34 PM PDT by magritte
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To: presidio9
LET'S RECAP:

China's 1st Nuclear Weapons test was in 1964.

At that time, Cain was attending Morehouse College

(WHO KNOWS, PERHAPS STUDENTS WERE KEPT ISOLATED AND FORBIDDEN TO LISTEN TO ANY NEWS PROGRAMS OF READ ANY NEWSPAPERS, cuz that little "event"--I remember as I was in the USAF at the time--made FRONT PAGE NEWS???)

He was graduated in 1967 and went on to get a Masters in Computer Science from Purdue.

Cain then went to work FOR THE US NAVY and worked on DEVELOPING "Fire Control Systems" on Ships and Planes...

(NO DOUBT THE NAVY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT CHINA'S CAPABILITIES EITHER AND CONCENTRATED SOLELY ON DEVELOPING DEFENSIVE/OFFENSIVE WEAPONS TO COMBAT USSR??)

AND, someone is going to suggest he DIDN'T KNOW that China had nuclear weapons????

RIGHT!!!

64 posted on 11/03/2011 2:01:50 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: buccaneer81

Cain is the last conservative hope for some. Also, the Iowa primary is chockful of evangelicals, the very base of the Swaggart/Baker/Robertson send ‘em money core.


65 posted on 11/03/2011 2:02:55 PM PDT by magritte
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To: livius
Some people here on FR are so committed to Cain...... I find it a little frightening.

Unlike the devotion and worshipping at Mrs. Palin's alter, and that was even before she had declared?

66 posted on 11/03/2011 2:03:51 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: presidio9
I guess the press needs to sort out what Cain did before he was CEO at Godfather's.

That Cain knows China has nuclear weapons is not in question, nor that they have delivery systems, once one looks at his resume.

What China does not have, but is working on, is a nuclear powered navy.

67 posted on 11/03/2011 2:09:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: presidio9

Obviously he is being held to Sarah Palin standards as of last week.

At what point will Obama be held to the rule of law? Ever?


68 posted on 11/03/2011 2:22:52 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: DesertRhino

No, just smarter.


69 posted on 11/03/2011 2:35:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: presidio9

He didn’t say China didn’t have nuclear weapons-—he was saying the Chinese were trying to develop a nuclear capacity at sea. That was the context of the comments. As for putting ships in the Persian Gulf, since when is that a radical policy? Every president since Nixon has done it.


70 posted on 11/03/2011 2:43:18 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: gov_bean_ counter

And then, sided with Obama, Goldman Sacks, Paulson, Bush, everyone but the american people and the free market. GM should have gone belly up, along with Fanimae, FreddyMac, a couple of giant banks, and the few investment houses that went under.


71 posted on 11/03/2011 2:58:34 PM PDT by qman (If you are prepared you can't be surprised.)
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To: mupcat

I think one of the reasons that Palin did not run was because there was such a cult of personality built up around her.

She’s an ethical person and I honestly think she didn’t like this.


72 posted on 11/03/2011 3:38:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: moose-matson

The U.S. Constitution has set the eligibility requirements for the office of the President. It is up to us to decide who we want in the White House.

If Cain doesn’t know much about China’s nuclear capabilities, and it is entirely possible that he doesn’t, my answer is “So what?”

People who have been deeply immersed in business do not usually pay attention to the Order of Battle capabilities of foreign nations. They just don’t. And I suspect the majority of folks here on FR wouldn’t vote for him based on his military or international relations knowledge. (That’s why Newt Gingrich would make such an outstanding Chief of Staff.)

Cain is a business executive accustomed to making high level management decisions. He takes in information, processes and analyzes it, then orders a directive. We need someone like that in the White House, because the guy who is there now doesn’t know how to do that!


73 posted on 11/03/2011 3:44:50 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: livius

Sarah is quite a gal. I like your post.


74 posted on 11/03/2011 5:36:00 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: TigersEye
"Anyone with a little comprehension of English could see that he meant nuclear aircraft carriers from the context of his remarks."

Even granting that, his comments still do not make sense: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/282115/cain-china-gaffe-patrick-brennan
75 posted on 11/03/2011 5:36:25 PM PDT by rob777
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To: livius
I think one of the reasons that Palin did not run was because there was such a cult of personality built up around her.

Oh, I think you're right on that. I mean, when you think of it, that's a horribly high mark to meet for anyone.

76 posted on 11/03/2011 6:07:29 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: presidio9

That interview with Couric was a big mistake. Katie hates Alaska, she despises the people of Alaska, she does not think they live in the sticks, she is certain they live way past the sticks. Couric is also convinced that the people of Alaska are illiterate morons. When she asked “what do you read” her tone of voice and body language where saying “Lets drive this stupid bitch in the dirt and end her VP aspirations right now”. Palin was taken aback with this answering “ I read all of them” and tone of voice asking “what is going on. Katie Couric’s actions stem from Haily Boggs disappearance in a light aircraft in Alaska. Katie feels that Alaska took her father away from her and the people refused to give him back.


77 posted on 11/03/2011 6:13:48 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: W. W. SMITH
Katie Couric’s actions stem from Haily Boggs disappearance in a light aircraft in Alaska. Katie feels that Alaska took her father away from her and the people refused to give him back.

Hardly. Hale Boggs was Cokie Roberts dad, not Katie Couric's.

78 posted on 11/03/2011 6:16:11 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: justsaynomore

Obama’s plan was projected to creat millions of jobs and unemployement under 8%.


79 posted on 11/03/2011 6:21:29 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Sea Parrot

Obama’s plan is based on socialism and government creating jobs, which we all know never works.

Cain’s plan is based on lowering taxes on job creators, and the free market system. It’s called supply-side economics. It worked in Reagan’s day.

I can’t imagine why you would be comparing Cain to Obama, though.


80 posted on 11/03/2011 6:24:38 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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