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MSNBC Host: Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops
Townhall.com ^ | November 1, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/01/2011 3:27:53 PM PDT by Kaslin

As I always say, you can be a victim, or not, the choice is yours.

Yesterday, Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright of South Carolina told women during a news conference to obtain their concealed weapons permit in order to better protect themselves from rapists and criminals in the area.

The sheriff of Spartanburg County, S.C., turned a news conference about an attempted rape in his community into an extended rant Monday in which he slammed a criminal justice system preferred by "liberals" for failing to keep the repeat-offender suspect behind bars -- and implored the women in his community to pack heat for self-protection.


"I want you to get a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Chuck Wright said at the Monday news conference, as reported by TV station WYFF. "Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."

The sheriff alleged that a 46-year-old man named Walter Lance abducted a woman while she was walking her dog Sunday afternoon and attempted to rape her.

Lance was arrested and charged with kidnapping, first-degree criminal sexual conduct and grand larceny, the Spartanburg Herald-Journal reported.


In the news conference, Wright said Lance had been convicted of 20 crimes dating back to 1983, including disorderly conduct, domestic violence, assault and battery with intent to kill, and resisting arrest, among others.

"Now if anybody sitting in this room had been charged with any of that stuff, they'd probably be finding a tall oak tree and a short rope for us," Wright said.

"I can tell you that our form of justice is not making it," he stated. "This fellow that has been charged numerous times for crimes against women and crime in society ... he's been in jail more times than I have, and I'm the dad-blame [guy] over the jail over there. And he seems to get out quicker than I can get out. And I am aggravated.


"I've had liberals call me and tell me, 'The chain gang is not going to work.' Well, let me inform you that your form of justice isn't working either."

Wright suggested that the women of Spartanburg carry their weapons in fanny packs. "You can conceal a small pistol in them," he said. "They got one called The Judge that shoots a .45 or a .410 shell. You ain't got to be accurate. You just have to get close."

This Sheriff should be applauded and is absolutely correct in his suggestions. Yes, law enforcement is an important piece of society however, ultimately it is up to the individual to protect themselves, in particular women because they are biologically weaker than men and easy targets for assault.

However, unsurprisingly MSNBC fill-in host Craig Melvin seems to be more worried about the fate of potential rapists, rather than the safety of women. During an interview with Sheriff Wright today, Melvin suggested law enforcement should be the only necessary protection for women and society against criminals. At the beginning of the interview, Melvin asked:

Sheriff, if law enforcement is charged with protecting the public, then, then, then why should that not be sufficient? Why should folks have to go out and get guns and arm themselves if we've got cops?

To which Wright responded: 

We can't be everywhere, and we are a fool if we tell everybody that we can take care of all of our problems.

Later in the interview Melvin has the audacity to suggest a woman defending herself against rape is "implying guilt rather than innocence."

Melvin: If women are shooting potential attackers, aren't they presuming guilt before innocence? What if a woman kills an attacker? Isn't that opening another whole legal can of worms?

Sheriff Wright: Well, it's easy to fix that. Just don't attack a woman.... I know that this is controversial, but I do believe that people who believe in the Second Amendment and believe that they should arm themselves have a right to do so, as long as they're trained properly.


Melvin was also shocked to learn the Sheriff suggested women use a .45 calibur handgun to get the job done. What did he think the Sheriff was going to suggest? Spitballs? A rubber band gun?

Here is a reality check for Craig Melvin: The most violent cities in the country, Chicago, Detroit, New York City, all have extremely strict gun laws. Being armed is a deterrent to criminals, plain and simple. If criminals know there is potential to get shot, they think twice about attacking you. Women have every right to protect themselves against rape, murder or other violent crimes by carrying a concealed weapon and yes, if they are attacked, have the right (in most states anyway) to shoot their attacker in self-defense. It is obvious Melvin has never done a single ounce of research about concealed carry. Women can't wait around to find out the intentions of an attacker; women who do that end up dead in a ditch somewhere. His implied sympathy for rapists and his idea that women shouldn't defend themselves because they might "kill their attacker," is pathetic.

As the saying goes: When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.

H/T Media Research Center


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To: Kaslin
Let’s put it this way: Why should police on the beat carry guns when their brethren at the local station already have them?

Those Constables on Patrol may lose their weapons or have them taken from them, so why risk it?

Why shouldn’t we keep those guns off the street?

61 posted on 11/01/2011 4:20:36 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Kaslin
Katie Pavlich...your stupidity makes you a perfect target for the rapist...Good Luck... for it is all you have going for you.
62 posted on 11/01/2011 4:23:14 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: Howie66

Obviously Mr Melvin lives in upscale, mostly white neighborhoods. He is a mostly white Negro person who has been able to take advantage of Affirmative Action Programs to advance himself. His children, when they go to school, will not attend the regular school but will attend University Schools or high class private schools.

Maybe some day he will be the second coming of Obama, a continued phase in of people of some color. I would guess he qualifies because he is one more degree of separation of those dark Negros (like Thomas or Cain) who were not invited serve in the Master’s Mansion.


63 posted on 11/01/2011 4:23:37 PM PDT by BilLies (ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hates your Traditional American guts!)
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To: Kaslin

Somebody should ask Craig Melvin if he carries car insurance. After all, it’s law enforcement’s job to prevent auto accidents, isn’t that sufficient?


64 posted on 11/01/2011 4:23:50 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Kaslin
Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops?

Here is the reason. A police officer will tell you his/her job is to enforce the - NOT TO PROTECT YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

It is your responsibility to defend yourself.

Do you understand this, liberal? Do you?

In my opinion if you are a true victim; attacked, robbed, or beaten pull out your hardware, shoot to kill, and get out of there as fast as you can. Never turn yourself in because the liberals will victimize you far worse than your assailant would have done.

65 posted on 11/01/2011 4:29:10 PM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA speak his name with loathing for what he has done to America!)
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To: Kaslin
Sounds like Carl Rowan just before he plugged some yute for trespassing his swimming pool.
66 posted on 11/01/2011 4:30:49 PM PDT by Shqipo (I am AttackWatch parolee #1,237. I am breaking my parole once more.)
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To: Kaslin

Because a cop is less reliable than a gun and I would not trust one enough to carry them around in a holster.


67 posted on 11/01/2011 4:32:33 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: BilLies

Actually he strikes me as a limp wristed pansy that was only hired to fill a quota.


68 posted on 11/01/2011 4:34:08 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: DanMiller

I might add that a bucket of lye boiling on the stove is a great deterrent.

An old colored lady told me she always kept it there in her kitchen, ready for any invader.


69 posted on 11/01/2011 4:34:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

>>> Not all policemen are bad, just saying

I did not say that any were.

However, cops are just that... cops.

They take their orders from the government.

And, if the government is corrupt (local/state/fed) and
issues unconstitutional orders to the cops against the citizens, the citizens are within their constitutional rights to defend themselves.


70 posted on 11/01/2011 4:40:42 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: TigersEye

Harsh but more than likely true. Like so many thouysands of DemboSlut “Flower Girls” who ran away to California in the sixties, that were drugged, raped, beaten into submission, and then turned out as whores to earn money for their Democrat pimps, who killed them when they couldn’t make enoughh money any more.


71 posted on 11/01/2011 4:42:16 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: Argus

Melvin is dumber than a box of rocks.


72 posted on 11/01/2011 4:43:23 PM PDT by Pit1 (Omama is the chief gun-runner. He's toast.)
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To: DGHoodini

I think you missed my point. Katie Pavlich wrote the story in support of carrying guns. At least you found your cap-lock key.


73 posted on 11/01/2011 4:44:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Safrguns; Kaslin

“>>> Not all policemen are bad, just saying”

It’s the 99% that give the 1% a bad image...


74 posted on 11/01/2011 4:46:55 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: TigersEye

I stand corrected. But you must admit it was an easy conclusion to jump to, considering that is the attitude that Dems raise their daughters to have.


75 posted on 11/01/2011 4:47:20 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: Kaslin

A gun in the hand is worth two cops on the phone.


76 posted on 11/01/2011 4:48:33 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: DGHoodini

I’m not going to admit that. I don’t jump to conclusions. Like concluding that she must be a Dem because she’s a woman.


77 posted on 11/01/2011 4:48:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kaslin
Our true heritage:

In The Siege of Boston (April 19, 1775 – March 17, 1776] BRITISH GENERAL Howe asked for all the citizens of Boston to surrender their guns, coz he knew EVERYONE was ARMED, even the police. Not everyone complied.

People in Boston had guns before a police force existed.

The people in Boston who had guns [everyone] established a police force with guns.

Ergo. precedent and practice plus 2nd Amendment rule.

78 posted on 11/01/2011 4:48:49 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Kaslin

Well, for one thing, it’s a hell of a lot easier to haul a gun around than a cop...and guns don’t eat all my doughnuts.


79 posted on 11/01/2011 4:53:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: bunkerhill7

You could even argue that the Second Amendment REQUIRES adult citizens to keep and bear arms so that in an emergency they can assemble as the militia in short order, fully equipped and ready to go.


80 posted on 11/01/2011 4:54:07 PM PDT by Argus
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