Posted on 10/31/2011 8:25:43 AM PDT by Perdogg
Herman Cain to be interviewed on Fox - 11:20am EST, by the Goddess Jenna Lee.
Why is he a fraud? I’m new to Cain, haven’t decided who I’m gonna go for, but this is the first “bad” thing I’ve heard about him. I don’t do political news all day, every day like I used to, so I’m just curious. What’s your beef with him?
*cough* Rick Perry *cough*
Well, we know it’s probably NOT Newt.
Rhymes...FWIW!:)
I’ll repeat my earlier statement:
All one has to do to be accused of, or even found guilty of sexual harassment is to be in possession of a penis, and in a position of authority.
First of all, everybody has "skeletons." The only perfect person who ever lived was Jesus Christ. All men are fallible. This individual man (Cain) knows that most folks understand this and will forgive if he did something in his past, admits it and issues the proper mea culpas. However, for a candidate in his position (challenging one of the most powerful and corrupt regimes in US History), he also knows what to expect from the opposition. That's why he said he expects a high tech lynching. Everybody makes mistakes and I'm sure he'll be able to move past his. But the smear attempts will be unceasing and he knows this as well. He won't ever allow those smears to stand unchallenged. I think the electorate knows this as well. Only the serious libtards accept everything the MSM says at face value.
I did too. Got a link?
I did see a misleading, poorly written blog from a guy at NPR, but it didn't mention the Feds.
There are situations which warrant larger settlements and the aggressor usually gets canned as well. But settlement is often the preferred method.
10 to 1 you are a Romney or Perry Bot
I’ve been here longer than you.
People that obfuscate and continue to surround themselves with questionable people don’t deserve our trust. Pay very close attention to the issues not what he SAYS. He’s just the salesman.
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We have a report where we know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago.They, at this point, are simply reported very vaguely by Politico: episodes that left the women upset and offended and physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable," and that, "they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.
We have allegation of payoff in the five figure range, but again, nothing specific. IMHO, until the accusers come up with something much more specific, like names, dates and places, it is going to continue to be nothing more than an attemted smear campaign from my perspecitve.
Maybe Politico has more...time will tell, but at this point, it's not out there.
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors through the entire time of Cains position at the Restruant Association, said they hadnt heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.I have never heard that. It would be news to me, said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. Hes very gracious.
Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.
Thats a shock to me, Fassler said. As an officer during all of Hermans years there as a paid executive none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.
Fassler who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cains June 1999 departure but remained on the boards executive committee described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was not within his character to make unwanted advances. Its not what I know of him, Fassler said.
Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.
Cain was extremely professional and fair to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she worked fairly closely with Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.
Cains treatment of women was the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great, said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, he had unanimous support in the room.
So, at this pont, who you gonna believe?
They are willing to do anything to try and stop Herman Cain. The RINOs first, and then the libs.
This is obviously not the DNC IMHO...too early...this is the work of RINOs who are scared of Cain and what he represents.
Until they have solid evidence that indicates wrong doing...and wrong doing from my own perspective...not something like him innocently asking a co-worker if she was married and how her family is doing, then I am backing Cain to the hilt on this smear attempt.
Go Herman go! They are going to try anything to take you down, but just on keeping on and espousing all-American, conservative constitutional principle and we will have you back.
I got too late to the TV, WHAT on earth are you talking about? a gesture that made someone uncomfortable is now an IRS violation????
You've been here 13 years and I've been here 10 and your point is what?
The only person I see with seniority here is the boss.
@DJ thought this would give you a chuckle :)
I remember that there were some long time FReepers who were staunch Giuliani supporters that didn't fare so well back in 2007/2008.
One thing to watch. Cain said, clearly, and I checked...that he didn't even know that the claims had been settled. To me, that's surprising. That will be verified.
I agree. With the amount of obfuscation, questionable people, and complete inability to concisely and coherently address the issues, we should not, in any capacity give our trust to ROMNEY nor PERRY!
Yup. I worked in a fast growing now Fortune 500 company. They had a whole team whose only job was to deal with this crap. Some were true, 97% was just angry people lashing out.
And, married to a Marine to boot...
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