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New Police Drone Near Houston Could Carry Weapons
KPRC ^ | October 29, 2011 | Stephen Dean

Posted on 10/30/2011 10:06:38 AM PDT by markomalley

CONROE, Texas -- A Houston area law enforcement agency is prepared to launch an unmanned drone that could someday carry weapons, Local 2 Investigates reported Friday.

The Montgomery County Sheriff's Office in Conroe paid $300,000 in federal homeland security grant money and Friday it received the ShadowHawk unmanned helicopter made by Vanguard Defense Industries of Spring.

A laptop computer is used to control the 50-pound unmanned chopper, and a game-like console is used to aim and zoom a powerful camera and infrared heat-seeking device mounted on the front.

"To be in on the ground floor of this is pretty exciting for us here in Montgomery County," Sheriff Tommy Gage said.

He said the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) could be used in hunting criminals who are running from police or assessing a scene where SWAT team officers are facing an active shooter.

Gage said it will also be deployed for criminal investigations such as drug shipments.

"We're not going to use it to be invading somebody's privacy. It'll be used for situations we have with criminals," Gage said.

It could have been used to help firefighters in the recent tri-county wildfires, he said, and it also could be handy in future scenarios like a recent search for a missing college student in The Woodlands.

In 2007, Local 2 Investigates uncovered a secret Houston Police Department test of a different kind of drone, fueling a nationwide debate over civil liberties and privacy.

A constitutional law professor and other civil liberties watchdogs told Local 2 Investigates that questions about police searches without warrants would crop up, as well as police spying into back yards or other private areas.

HPD fueled that 2007 controversy even further by suggesting that drones could be used for writing speeding tickets.

The backlash prompted Mayor Annise Parker to scrap HPD's plans for using drones when she took office.

Gage said he is aware of those concerns.

"No matter what we do in law enforcement, somebody's going to question it, but we're going to do the right thing, and I can assure you of that," he said.

He said two deputies are finishing their training and should be ready to fly police missions within the next month.

Tapped to operate the Montgomery County Sheriff's helicopter UAV are Sgt. Melvin Franklin, a licensed pilot, and Lt. Damon Hall, who heads the department's crime lab and crime scene unit. The sheriff said Hall's SWAT team background will assist the department in using the new tool on hostage standoffs or active shooter events.

The ShadowHawk chopper was displayed on a small conference room table as it was unveiled Friday. It displayed a sheriff's logo and flashing blue lights on the side. On the front of the chopper, a grapefruit sized back unit houses the camera and Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) sensor that can detect heat from a gun or a suspect's body.

Deputies said they can quickly switch between day and night vision on the camera, which is zoomed and moved from side to side by a game-like console inside a police command vehicle on the ground.

The display shows up on a small TV-like box, while the actual flight controls are handled from a laptop computer.

Michael Buscher, chief executive officer of manufacturer Vanguard Defense Industries, said this is the first local law enforcement agency to buy one of his units.

He said they are designed to carry weapons for local law enforcement.

"The aircraft has the capability to have a number of different systems on board. Mostly, for law enforcement, we focus on what we call less lethal systems," he said, including Tazers that can send a jolt to a criminal on the ground or a gun that fires bean bags known as a "stun baton."

"You have a stun baton where you can actually engage somebody at altitude with the aircraft. A stun baton would essentially disable a suspect," he said.

Gage said he has no immediate plans to outfit his drone with weapons, and he also ruled out using the chopper for catching speeders.

"We're not going to use it for that," he said.

Chief Deputy Randy McDaniel said, "I'm tickled to death" about using the drone, pointing out that in his years of police work he could imagine countless incidents having ended more quickly and easily.

"It's so simple in its design and the objectives, you just wonder why anyone would choose not to have it," said McDaniel.

At the same time Houston police were testing a different drone, the Miami-Dade Metro Police department was also taking test flights of a helicopter UAV, and the Federal Aviation Administration said that department is now using its drone for local police work.

The San Diego Police Department also made local headlines in 2008 for beginning its own flights with a fixed-wing UAV.

But Les Dorr, an FAA spokesman in Washington, said very few local police departments actually have the required certificate of authorization (COA) to fly police missions nationwide.

He said Montgomery County is the first COA by a local police department in all of Texas.

In September 2008, the Government Accountability Office issued a 73-page report that raised issues about police drones endangering airspace for small planes or even commercial airliners.

The report's author, Gerald Dillingham, told Local 2 Investigates that 65 percent of the crashes of military drones on the battlefield were caused by mechanical failures.

He said a police UAV could lose its link to the ground controllers if wind knocks the aircraft out of range or the radio frequencies are disrupted.

"If you lose that communication link as the result of that turbulence or for any other reason, then you have an aircraft that is not in control and can in fact crash into something on the ground or another aircraft," said Dillingham.

Pilots of small planes expressed those concerns in the original 2007 Local 2 Investigates reporting on police drones, and the FAA reported then that police departments across the country were lining up to apply for their own drones.

At Montgomery County, Franklin said an onboard GPS system is designed to keep the UAV on target and connected with the ground controllers. He said coordinates are plotted in advance and a command is given for the UAV to fly directly to that spot, adjusting to turbulence and other factors. He said he and the other controller can alter "waypoints" quickly on the laptop to move the chopper to areas that had not previously been mapped out. He said the aircraft moves at a speed of 30 knots, which he said makes it unsuitable for police pursuits.

Small aircraft pilots have expressed concerns that drones cannot practice the "see and avoid" rule that keeps aircraft from colliding in mid-air. Since the camera may be aimed somewhere else, pilots said police controllers may not be able to see and avoid other aircraft in the area during a sudden police emergency.

Gage said he would take every concern into account as his UAV is deployed.

The only routine law enforcement flights inside the United States over the past four years have been the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Their border flights over Texas and Arizona have included one crash, where the drone lost its link to the ground controller.


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If what I’ve heard about Houston is true, that drone should have no shortage of targets.


41 posted on 10/30/2011 1:28:49 PM PDT by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: JDW11235
"How long before science coupled with the police state becomes THE nightmare of Biblical proportions. Not long, I suspect."

Well, there is always the history of American exceptionalism wrt technology advances. Backyard arrays could readily be promulgated.

42 posted on 10/30/2011 1:36:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Oh, I thoroughly believe that America will make it through the dark period to come, but I by no means believe that we’ll be unscathed. The fact is that there is a group of people who thinks they have the right to rule everyone else. At some point it’s going to come down to a decision of whether or not that is true, and it’s going to be a costly debate.

The price the Eloi paid for their complacent “freedom” was to be dinner to the Morlocks.


43 posted on 10/30/2011 1:42:09 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: patriot preacher

Everyone already has that God-given right, just not the government-given priviledge.


44 posted on 10/30/2011 1:43:13 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: markomalley

When I read articles like this, I understand Alex Jones’ points - which though I find him pretty interesting to listen to, admittedly sometimes get a bit shrill.

There’s (always) a good “reason” for everything like this. But like seat belt laws which were originally promised not to be a ticket by themselves (I remember clearly, that was promised), always there’s more to these sorts of things.

Now, not wearing a seatbelt is reason alone for a ticket. All these sorts of things, “creep” that way.

Every single time. First it’s a tiny toe in the door, then it’s more and more and more laws.

Always.


45 posted on 10/30/2011 1:52:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: markomalley

Too bad Houston isn’t on the border.

Just sayin’


46 posted on 10/30/2011 2:01:06 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: markomalley
Since the camera may be aimed somewhere else, pilots said police controllers may not be able to see and avoid other aircraft in the area during a sudden police emergency.

Gage said he would take every concern into account as his UAV is deployed.

In other words, if we kill you in a plane, that's just too bad, because we WILL deploy this UAV. Public servant my Arse... These days, under this Administration the public is disposable.

47 posted on 10/30/2011 2:02:39 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"All these sorts of things, “creep” that way."

Don't forget the "creep" from Civil to Criminal and Misdemeanor to Felony.

48 posted on 10/30/2011 2:07:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: markomalley

sounds like BLUE THUNDER from the ‘80s.


49 posted on 10/30/2011 2:14:23 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: servantboy777
I live in Montgomery co., things are a changing with all the DHS grant money being provided.

Cameras installed everywhere, new IR surveillance, 360 radar, lil spy choppers in Tomball.

So I'm just wondering why ordinary citizens feel like suspects in the whole terror protection scenario.


It's happening all over Texas unfortunately, and the door is open for mission creep.

A friend who moved back to Texas after retiring from the military went around the state visiting family and friends that he hadn't been able to catch up with in years. He was shocked and a bit saddened by the whole thing.
50 posted on 10/30/2011 2:16:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: markomalley; All; Travis McGee

“We’re not going to use it to be invading somebody’s privacy. It’ll be used for situations we have with criminals,” Gage said.

It could have been used to help firefighters in the recent tri-county wildfires, he said, and it also could be handy in future scenarios like a recent search for a missing college student in The Woodlands.


Bullbutter...

All the peripheral justification in the world does not hide the potential or inended mis-use of this platform...

A fools move by Conroe...


51 posted on 10/30/2011 2:19:15 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: markomalley

Now they can get a good look at the number and location of any dogs to be whacked on every “mistaken address” drug raid.


52 posted on 10/30/2011 2:23:00 PM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Local law enforcement agencies think it's great, hey we just got all this money....with a catch.

DHS is a federal agency getting involved on a local level...why?

I thought Dept of Homeland Security was mainly involved with identifying terrorist cells and so forth.

Looks more like surveillance of ordinary citizens to me.

I've been ranting about this for quite some time. A few coworkers kinda responded like...yea yea, ok ufo’s blah blah.

That was a few years ago. Those same guys are now saying...WTF is going on.

53 posted on 10/30/2011 2:30:36 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: af_vet_rr
Local law enforcement agencies think it's great, hey we just got all this money....with a catch.

DHS is a federal agency getting involved on a local level...why?

I thought Dept of Homeland Security was mainly involved with identifying terrorist cells and so forth.

Looks more like surveillance of ordinary citizens to me.

I've been ranting about this for quite some time. A few coworkers kinda responded like...yea yea, ok ufo’s blah blah.

That was a few years ago. Those same guys are now saying...WTF is going on.

54 posted on 10/30/2011 2:32:02 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: af_vet_rr
Local law enforcement agencies think it's great, hey we just got all this money....with a catch.

DHS is a federal agency getting involved on a local level...why?

I thought Dept of Homeland Security was mainly involved with identifying terrorist cells and so forth.

Looks more like surveillance of ordinary citizens to me.

I've been ranting about this for quite some time. A few coworkers kinda responded like...yea yea, ok ufo’s blah blah.

That was a few years ago. Those same guys are now saying...WTF is going on.

55 posted on 10/30/2011 2:32:34 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

To the DHs, we are the terrorists my FRiend. Where we live are the cells.


56 posted on 10/30/2011 2:39:16 PM PDT by sport
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To: MplsSteve
>>If what I’ve heard about Houston is true<<

I'm a native, I could probably answer all your questions.

If law enforcement around here would use these assets to track down and deport all the freakin illegal alien criminals, I'd be ok with the drones.

It appears though that this technology will be unleashed the population as a whole.

By the way, Perry's still our worthless damn Governor that would not press the elimination of sanctuary cities.

I'd love to ask Perry a question during the debates that would leave him speechless....never happen though.

57 posted on 10/30/2011 2:43:30 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: markomalley
Hey why expose a SWAT team to possible injury on raids? Just blow the crime scene to bits!

Worked in Waco! No one prosecuted yet!

58 posted on 10/30/2011 3:27:31 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: markomalley
"We're not going to use it to be invading somebody's privacy. It'll be used for situations we have with criminals," Gage said.

Criminals being defined as... (drumroll please)... anyone they use it on.

59 posted on 10/30/2011 3:38:18 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: servantboy777

What you are seeing are probably not cameras, but the devices that emergency vehicles use to change the traffic lights from red to green.


60 posted on 10/30/2011 3:48:52 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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