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Reader's viewpoint - For two years, the police have kept my gun(OH)
timesreporter.com ^ | 21 October, 2011 | JOHN VALENTINE

Posted on 10/22/2011 5:03:05 PM PDT by marktwain

I live in Uhrichsville. Within eight months’ time, my property was broken into three times.

After the second time, I had a security system installed.

At 2 a.m. on April 24, 2010, the alarm to the backyard barn went off. I armed myself and went to check it out. The barn door was wide open and a man was inside looking around with a flashlight. I yelled at him to come to me and he came at me with a tire iron in hand. He was less than 10 feet away when I fired a warning shot. He turned and ran; I fired more shots trying to get him to stop. At no time was I trying to hit him.

The police came, took the tire iron that he dropped and also took my gun. It’s been almost two years, and I still cannot get my gun back.

No charges were ever filed. I saw a lawyer and was told it would cost me $400 to file papers with the court for return of the gun.

The gun was registered and I have a permit to carry. I’m 68, never been in trouble. I fired in self-defense. Why are they keeping my gun?

Recently in New Philadelphia, a man fired three shots at a truck in town. The police took his gun and returned it the same day with a warning. What is going on in Uhrichsville?

Can someone please help me get my gun back?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; oh; police
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This sort of abuse by police is fairly common. Many will not return the property without a court order. It is legalized theft.
1 posted on 10/22/2011 5:03:09 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Warning shot?


2 posted on 10/22/2011 5:05:38 PM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: Jaxter

Someone in the police department liked your gun. It happens all the time.


3 posted on 10/22/2011 5:10:00 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: marktwain

You are right, it is theft tho I am not sure it is legal. At one time cops kept them just to steal the property. I think now it is more of an anti-gun attitude.

One of my college friends was the son of a small town Florida police chief. He had amassed a large collection of guns.

The cops have the power to do it so they do it whether it is legal or not.


4 posted on 10/22/2011 5:11:55 PM PDT by yarddog
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Filthy pigs are filthy pigs, and filthy pigs will always act like filthy pigs. God I hate the pigs!


5 posted on 10/22/2011 5:17:14 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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I’m not an attorney, but I wonder why the guy couldn’t just file his own Small Claims Court action against the PD?

No attorney fees. It would get the matter in front of a judge. Sounds like he would most certainly win.


6 posted on 10/22/2011 5:19:27 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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He was less than 10 feet away when I fired a warning shot. He turned and ran; I fired more shots trying to get him to stop. At no time was I trying to hit him.

Probably should have stopped after the first "warning shot". Be hard to justify discharging your weapon after he fled. Where did the bullets from the warning shots go? More to this I'll bet.

7 posted on 10/22/2011 5:19:45 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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Well, they haven’t charged the guy, so case closed. You can’t take a guys private property because you think he might have done something wrong 2 years ago. Unless, of course, you are (a) the pigs, or (b) in a union.


8 posted on 10/22/2011 5:21:56 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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Probably should have stopped after the first "warning shot". Be hard to justify discharging your weapon after he fled. Where did the bullets from the warning shots go? More to this I'll bet.

It makes no difference, if he wasn't charged they can't keep the gun.

9 posted on 10/22/2011 5:22:26 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: marktwain

Go to the clerk’s office and ask for a small claims complaint. You might be able to get a copy on-line by searching for your county web-site, click on `Forms.’
Write on the complaint that the action/claim is for `replevin’ (return of wrongfully withheld property) and, in the space for your `statement of the claim’, explain what happened.
Name the police chief (or sheriff) as defendant, along with the prosecutor. Make sure to ask for an award of your filing fee. Or see a lawyer. He may advise you to amend your claim to request treble damages and his fees.
This is what I would do in my state. Your state may be different. If you go pro se (repping yourself) be nice to the deputy clerk when asking questions and they usually reciprocate/may help you fill out the claim. (But make sure you write in the defendants’ names last.)


10 posted on 10/22/2011 5:22:32 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Comrades! Comrades--we have glorious news for you!)
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Never fire a warning shot. If its worth a warning shot its worth a shot to center mass.

I bet he never sees the gun again.


11 posted on 10/22/2011 5:24:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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” At no time was I trying to hit him.”

Your first mistake......firing a weapon is the application of deadly force. If you didn’t mean to hit him, you shouln’t have fired in the first place.


12 posted on 10/22/2011 5:27:03 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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Warning shots are an interesting theory. See, those bullets end up somewhere, and potentially in an innocent victim.

I was a Customs Inspector. I attended the academy and carried a gun in the line of duty. We were taught to “shoot to stop” the threat. And we qualified at the range every quarter. We shot at targets with a human silouette. Two rounds to the center of mass, and one to the head. Yup. That would stop them!


13 posted on 10/22/2011 5:35:28 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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Friend; If you legally own a firearm and your life is in jeopardy...It’s called double tap. Never fire a warning shot because Its his word again yours. Good luck


14 posted on 10/22/2011 5:42:58 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: driftdiver

I’ve often wondered about that “no warning shot” thing. I freely admit I might be wrong, but it sounds like macho BS to me. For example, you’re trapped in an alley, and a guy is slowly advancing on you with a knife and a wild look in his eyes. He is chanting that he’s gonna kill you. He’s 60 feet away. You’ve got a primary and a back-up gun on you. You know that even if he’s got it comin’ that killing a guy will give you nightmares forever. Why NOT fire a warning shot?


15 posted on 10/22/2011 5:45:52 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

If the crook was advancing on him with a deadly weapon then he probably would have been justified in shooting him.

The fact is tho that he survived the encounter with no harm to him or anyone else. I don’t think anyone needs to criticize him.


16 posted on 10/22/2011 5:50:23 PM PDT by yarddog
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Contact the nra, they will put him in touch with the correct attorney, he will not need to pay anything, court will award him his fees plus. Damages.
17 posted on 10/22/2011 5:53:03 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Jaxter; driftdiver; Forty-Niner
..I fired a warning shot. He turned and ran.

Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound. -Anon.

Corollary: A man found dead in his backyard, beaten to death with a tire iron, is somehow morally superior to a man explaining to police how he scared off the tire iron armed attacker with a gun he wasn’t willing to use to shoot him.

18 posted on 10/22/2011 5:53:46 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: marktwain

I wonder about the claim ‘my gun was registered.’ Registered with whom? Why?


19 posted on 10/22/2011 5:55:30 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Doctor 2Brains

You never fire a warning shot because the bullet may end up hitting an innocent person and then you have some real legal problems.

Never, ever, fire a warning shot.


20 posted on 10/22/2011 5:57:29 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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