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Will Romney’s Lawn Workers Sink His Candidacy?
The New Republic ^ | 10-19-2011 | Alec MacGillis

Posted on 10/19/2011 5:22:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Will Romney’s Lawn Workers Sink His Candidacy?

Alec MacGillis

October 19, 2011

Well, this much is clear: Rick Perry's campaign takes its cues from this blog, which just a few days ago asked in a headline, "Time for Perry to Bring up Mitt's lawn care?" Apparently, it was time. The question that came to my mind as that remarkable fracas last night was occurring was: could this turn into Mitt Romney's driver's license moment? Hillary Clinton was sailing along on an aura of inevitability in the fall of 2007, acing the debates much as Romney has done, when she found herself ganged up in a Philadelphia debate over her ambiguous stance over whether or not illegal immigrants in New York state should be allowed drivers' licenses.

It was a damaging moment because it brought to the fore all at once the less appealing side of her political persona, the trimming and calculating Hillary. There was a sudden similar risk in Perry's attack on Mitt's lawn workers (and what is it, anyway, with immigration as the issue that sparks revelatory moments in both parties' debates?) -- it reacquainted viewers very clearly with the Romney that he had managed to submerge so far in the campaign, the supremely wealthy suburban Boston pol who finds it unnervingly easy to talk away past positions or actions in blatant denial of the historical record. It will be up to viewers to decide what they make of this Mitt -- appealing to Anderson Cooper to restore order, his face red, his voice raised to a full shout -- in the constant replaying that the back and forth is sure to get in the coming days. Me, I thought the Times' Alessandra Stanley nailed it: "Romney looked a little like a country club tennis player dealing with a nonmember guest who gauchely calls a ball in that was obviously out." 

Still, for this to turn into an equivalent of Hillary's driver's license moment will require that there is another candidate who is able to capitalize on this opening the way that Barack Obama was able to do then, as he deftly zeroed in on the triangulating Hillary in the Jefferson-Jackson speech in Des Moines that revived his campaign. This is the chance for Rick Perry's team to prove they're as good as everyone in Texas says they are.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; belmontsanctuary; done; finished; immigration; ineligibleromney; kaput; mittromney; rickperry; rinoromney; romney; romney4illegals; romney4mexicans; romneycain; romneyhiredillegals; romneylied; romneyliesagain
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To: Diogenesis

last night he lied multiply.
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Even Teddy Kennedy caught that in Romney back in 1994

He said Romney was “mutiple choice”

I guess thats the same thing...


61 posted on 10/19/2011 6:18:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Diogenesis

last night he lied multiply.
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Even Teddy Kennedy caught that in Romney back in 1994

He said Romney was “multiple choice”

I guess thats the same thing...


62 posted on 10/19/2011 6:18:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: muawiyah

I missed it? Please. It was completely intentional and f’ed Perry’s rhythm up terribly. Romney just did an excellent job of making Perry look like a fumbler. I’m not supporting Romney, far from it, but he made Perry look like the amateur candidate that he is.

It doesn’t hurt that most Texas voters have become yellow dog Pubbies, so that if Perry is at the top of the ticket for the GOP he has a lock on the office. He’s terrible at debating and lousy off the cuff because he hasn’t had to compete. Worse, he’s knuckled under and governed far less conservatively than he would have if Texas conservatives had demanded performance. He’s only been talking and walking as an arch conservative lately. The Dream Act stuff is more representative of his historic political bent.

Romney...pfeh. Why even talk about him as a candidate? Even more worthless than Perry.


63 posted on 10/19/2011 6:18:45 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: PapaNew

That plus the Romney care issue is more than enough to disqualify him. What has he said about abortion then and now? Gay marriage? Gun control? Job creation? And he defended social security in a way that was insincere.


64 posted on 10/19/2011 6:26:37 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: smoothsailing
The problem is Perry shouldn't have stopped with the illegal workers, once he had Romney on the ropes he should have finished him off with his past stands on amnesty and sanctuary cities.
65 posted on 10/19/2011 6:27:07 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: JosephMama
Hiring a contractor to work on your home is not something that will sink his campaign.

No, but as Mark Steyn mentioned today, Romney said "I can't have illegals working here. I'm running for office." Romney did let his guard down. Doesn't care about the illegality of aliens other than that it could make him look bad for his political ambitions.
66 posted on 10/19/2011 6:28:21 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: cripplecreek

30% or more of the voters can’t even name a single candidate.... and you expect them to remember that Romney hired illegal aliens years ago which was brought up in the 2008 primary debates?


67 posted on 10/19/2011 6:30:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: BfloGuy

<It’s absurd to claim that he should have known the citizenship of the people his contractor had hired.

Maybe, maybe not. I have one service that cares for the lawn and a another that does the mowing and snow removal. I told both companies that everyone who came on my property had to be legally able to work in the US. You can put your foot down about illegal labor if you want to.

I understand that Romney wouldn’t know who the contractor hired, but I think that these days, some assumptions can be made (i.e. that there are a lot of Hispanic lawn workers who may be illegal) and that one can take affirmative actions to hire Americans if that’s what one really wants to do.

I don’t completely blame him for not knowing who the contractor hired, but I am disappointed that he said it was an issue because he’s running for office, not because he didn’t want to hire an illegal.


68 posted on 10/19/2011 6:30:30 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, store food, pray for the Republic.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s why Romney kept talking, interrupting, raising his voice, and begging Cooper to save him. He knew what might be next. Perry can go at him again on Nov. 9th. Last night was a start. Perry proved one thing - Romney is thin skinned and easily agitated.


69 posted on 10/19/2011 6:34:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

How sick is this? There are lots of legitimate reasons to reject Romney and the nation focuses on THIS?


70 posted on 10/19/2011 6:38:41 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: the invisib1e hand
try getting someone to do your lawn who isn't Mexican.

Out here on the west coast, a lot of landscaping workers are asian immigrants. But, I see your point. It's hard to get local kids to do any work. I've hired some, but they're lazy and tire easily - and want good money. The asians and Mexicans work hard and fast. One crew I hired to take out a large tree and lay concrete amazed me. One guy hacked away at a tree and stump for hours with a dull axe without stopping. He didn't speak english, but I managed to stop him and I took the axe and sharpened it on my grinder to a fine edge. Didn't seem to matter to him, but I made the job easier for him.

71 posted on 10/19/2011 7:03:28 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: smoothsailing

Short memories.....

Look what illegals did to Meg Whitman campaign in her governer race against Jerry Moonbeam Brown.

“Don’t let yesterday use up too much of today.”


72 posted on 10/19/2011 7:12:20 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: PapaNew
Frankly, sounds like a phony issue to me. Can't they get him on something more substantive than that?

It was a rehash of an issue from the 2008 primaries, and I still don't understand Perry's thinking, first because it didn't work in 2008 since Romney is now the frontrunner - if it was going to stick, Romney would be a non-issue in 2011. Second, if Romney was even partway competent, he would have pointed out that Perry's bigger backer is a home builder supports sanctuary cities and worked to kill off anti-sanctuary cities legislation. Perry dragging up people employing illegals was dumb as hell since he left the door open for Romney to take him down a few notches on the national stage, but fortunately for Perry, Romney was just as dumb.

Finally, and most importantly, there are much bigger things to fry Romney on and Perry didn't take advantage of them. Whoever is running his campaign or telling him what to say, they should be fired. It was the featured exchange of the night, and rather than Perry really hammering Romney on something bigger, it's just a stupid little spat between two kids on the playground over an issue that clearly didn't hurt Romney in the long run.
73 posted on 10/19/2011 7:14:09 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: the invisib1e hand

I had my choice of at least 25 different people to cut my grass and NONE of them were mexicans.


74 posted on 10/19/2011 7:22:39 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“try getting someone to do your lawn who isn’t Mexican.”

Real easy, mow it yourself — Been mowing my own lawn for the last 41 years!


75 posted on 10/19/2011 7:25:19 PM PDT by texican01
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To: BfloGuy

I’m not a fan of Mitt and I damn sure don’t like illegal mexicans but this is stupid. To expect someone to know this info from every subcontractor is silly.


76 posted on 10/19/2011 7:26:01 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: smoothsailing

Wasn’t there a Jack Benny skit where he was talking to a Mexican guy that kept saying See. His name was Ci. His wife’s name was Sue.


77 posted on 10/19/2011 7:37:51 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: smoothsailing

I cannot stand Romney.

But you guys (and Perry’s laughable try at attacking Romney for something Perry should stay about as far away as possible - Illegal immigrants!) trying to make this an issue is just absurd.

It really shows how desperate you and your candidate are.


78 posted on 10/19/2011 7:47:33 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: BfloGuy
"No. It’s absurd to claim that he should have known the citizenship of the people his contractor had hired."


Of course it is and it made Perry look desperate. I do like his embrace of the Flat tax and entitlement reform thought.
79 posted on 10/19/2011 7:52:57 PM PDT by rob777
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To: PapaNew

There is plenty of material to sink Romney with. I honestly don’t know anyone who even considers voting for Romney. It wasn’t a winner for Perry. He blew it with that attack. The hypocracy was just stunning.


80 posted on 10/19/2011 8:01:40 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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