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GOP Empire's Plan to Crush Tea Party Rebels
atlantic wire ^ | 10-12-11 | Elspeth Reeve

Posted on 10/13/2011 9:26:50 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

Step 1: The first rule of the establishment is: Do not admit you are part of the establishment! Step 2: Disarm them with praise Step 3: Moderate whoever they pick as the 2012 nominee. Step 4: Teach them about compromise. Step 5: Never forget reality

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...


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To: SWAMPSNIPER

And there a lot of them...


41 posted on 10/13/2011 10:32:09 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: kevao
The ass-kicking we’re going to give them in 2012 will dwarf what we gave them in 2010. The Establishment is delusional if they think otherwise.

I hope a conservative Tea Party member can run against Boehner. All these Statist pigs should be defeated.

I pray all RINOS and their Rat comrades are slaughtered in an electoral bloodbath.

If our Republic is to survive, the Rats and Rinos must be politically destroyed.

42 posted on 10/13/2011 10:39:41 AM PDT by sand88
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To: MNJohnnie
Bingo! Nail head, meet hammer! Willard could not win much outside of New Hampster with its open primary, so the Pubbie Establishment needed a backup, someone it could portray as more conservative. Their answer? Slick Rick Perry. They fed the "yell leader" some slogans they knew would appeal to conservatives, like "Social Security is a Ponzi scheme." Of course it is, but Ricardo could not explain how, because he's just a mediocre hack politician.

I've got news for the country-club Pubbie establishment: Your days of exploiting us are over. We will never again back another Ivy League "compassionate conservative." This is war, because we alone want to save this republic. We will crush you, or die trying. My advice: get your wimpy, pansy, law-school behinds out of the way, punks.

43 posted on 10/13/2011 10:45:37 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: Kenny Bunk
It should be obvious, why the Hell should they listen to us if they get constant proof that we won't stand our ground?

We have people declaring surrender on a daily basis, right out in front of God and everybody.

It. is stupid and counterproductive>

There is a red letter warning every time you post, "LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS"!

44 posted on 10/13/2011 10:45:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I humbly disagree.

If the conservative loses in the primaries, the winner is our candidate. The MSM can do all they want to ensure a lib Republican is the nominee.

It’s up to us to also get our word out and promote conservatism as America’s guiding light.


45 posted on 10/13/2011 10:49:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I am a Cainiac)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’ll stand my ground, I will not vote for another RINO.


46 posted on 10/13/2011 10:57:47 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: greeneyes
Pubbie relents and allows another bite. This continues one bite at a time until the Pubbie is left with just the core, so he picks up a pear, and the whole process begins again.

You left out the last part, where MSM denounces the pubs for "failing" to produce the Apple Dumpling, then "flip-flopped" by switching to a pear.

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47 posted on 10/13/2011 11:02:22 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Rush is hitting the Republican Establishment hard today. It’s good to hear....


48 posted on 10/13/2011 11:04:19 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Fu-fu2

It’s good stuff! But he’s been hammering them for while. ESPECIALLY during the 2010 elections warning the Tea Party candidates not to get pushed to the side once elected.


49 posted on 10/13/2011 11:08:46 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: LibLieSlayer
LLS writes: We can kill off the republican party if we need to... keep pushing your republican party marxists and we will.

And SWAMPSNIPER wrote in #5: This is exactly why having Freepers blabbering about how they will vote for a RINO as a last resort is damaging our chances of ever having a decent candidate.

Political vampire Romney would suck the blood out of the Republican party and leave a pale corpse. He and the folks who voted for him will have killed the party off.

Could be the time is now to go offense and start a third party, and believe me, I never thought I'd say that, because a third party is a near-sure win for Democrats. But between Romney and any Democrat, a win for Republicans is assured to be as (and in some ways more) destructive for America as a win for Democrats.

If Romney gets in, it's time to kill the Republican party, put it out of its misery. This isn't sports, it's the survival of liberty and limited government in America. Once upon a time, a Republican victory meant the latter, but in the presidential race today, it's shaping up that a "win" is like sports: of zero material consequence which side wins.

If Romney is the GOP presidential candidate, my vote will go elsewhere because I love this country and recognize that Romney will do MORE DAMAGE to the Republican party morale and any ability to shrink government than Obama could do in his wildest dreams. Those of you willing to pull the lever for him simply because he's not Obama will be voting FOR big government, you'll be voting for and condoning STATISM, you'll be endorsing and validating everything you stand against, with that vote.

Rationalize all you want, but that is EXACTLY what you would be doing. It's what I would have done ten years ago, too -- but I'm sadder and wiser now. SWAMPSNIPER, I agree with you heartily, except that I know I mean what I write; I think the old party hacks are hoping most of us are bluffing. It will take guts, true guts, to stay the course of rejecting Romney.

50 posted on 10/13/2011 11:12:12 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Ping to my post #50, where I quote your post!


51 posted on 10/13/2011 11:16:10 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
It should be obvious, why the Hell should they listen to us if they get constant proof that we won't stand our ground?

AMEN, Swamp. AMEN.

52 posted on 10/13/2011 11:21:08 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The problem is that establishment Republicans are in charge of the party at all levels, from national to local. No matter how much passion and heft the Tea Party conservatives have, they are not on the inside calling all the shots.

The establishment Republicans may be a numerical minority of the party demographic, but they control the necessary tools and devices to ensure one of their own (Romney, McCain, Dole, Bush) makes it to the top. They control local primaries and caucuses, local party organizations, state committees, and national party entities like the RNC, RCCC, RSCC, etc.

Why is this so? Because this relatively small handful are not tied up in life’s reality tasks, like holding a job or raising a family. They are the full time cadre who are parasitically fed by the political machine - the party apparatchiks, the politicians themselves, the consultants and strategists. At the state and local levels they are those with wealth and occupations that allow them the time to be a county chairman, a committeeman, a donor. Often at that level they are spouses of the same looking for something to do.

Look at your own local organization - how many Republican party functionaries are just average worker types? When you volunteer to help in a local campaign, who is the guy in charge? Not someone like you.

These elitists have political and social views far different from you, and they look upon you as useful rabble to do their dirty work and toe the line to support their preselected candidates. In that regard, they look upon you in the same way democrats look upon blacks and the poor - resources to exploit, but never to listen to.

For all his evil and destructiveness, Obama is a temporary phenomenon. America will not fail because of Obama’s disastrous term, no more so than it did after Carter or the Civil War. If it fails, it will be because Obama’s replacement, by political necessity and dearth of other options a Republican, will be a RINO who differs in degree, not in kind from Obama and his policies. The true conservative, the Reagan successor, will not be around to save America this time.

Republicans will probably win this election by default. The system is set up to rule out those who share Tea Party sentiments, the sentiments of the overwhelming majority of Americans.

But a Republican establishment President surrounded by like-minded Senators and appointees will be a temporary phenomenon also, quickly thorwn out of office because they once again failed the American people.

Think 2006 and 2008.


53 posted on 10/13/2011 11:23:16 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: jpsb
Which is why Sarah bailed out at exactly the wrong time. Just when she was needed most, she bailed out on us. I fear the tea party is now no longer reliant, the establishment wins again and the people lose again. Very sad, with Sarah we could have at least driven the dialog. Now there is very little that can be done to change the direction the nation is going. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Which is why the Tea Party should never rely upon "leaders". The model should be bottom-up leaderless resistance to the Establishment.

Having leaders that you need to rely upon is a weakness. Leaders get attacked. Leaders get corrupted. Leaders get co-opted. Do not rely upon leaders. Do what you can locally to get real conservatives to run and get elected.

54 posted on 10/13/2011 11:27:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Finny
Rush said **** these elite... WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OVER AND KICK THOSE MODERATE DIMS PARADING AS REPUBLICANS TO THE CURB. We do not need a third party unless we lose this battle... and we are NOT going to lose it.

LLS

55 posted on 10/13/2011 11:37:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: MNJohnnie; Clairity; Cincinatus' Wife; patriot08; smoothsailing; shield
From this article. Confirmation that Perry is the GOP Establishment's mole designed to defang the Tea Party

The people who really need to see this note aren't on the thread .... yet ....

Pinging .....

Hey, girls -- come and have a look at this quote our FRiend MNJohnnie found. See what you've done! Yer all nekkid now -- as Anti-FReepers! Working to crush the Tea Party and the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party.

Come and get it! (Or is your real payday later on?)

56 posted on 10/13/2011 11:44:44 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Good for Rush. In 2008, he also slammed McCain, and I said then, good for Rush. But his slamming McCain was impotent, and his ranting against the elite now is just as impotent. He's on the same level as you and me, talking, opining, informing, debating, hoping to inspire people to think about the issues before they vote.

But he's no more consequential than me, you, or Palin. Heck, he's saying mostly the same things we would be saying if we were on teh air. His "effectiveness" is just another media illusion; he is not in a position where we might elevate him to having the muscle of elected power to carry through and make real the ideas he expresses. If he was in office, he could; but he's not, so he's just another American with an opinion -- one I agree with most of the time -- but that's it. Whether I like it or not, I have to acknowledge the truth of it.

When all is said and done, Romney is a statist, Perry very likely is a 70-percent statist. We are worried about them because IF ELECTED, they will wield genuine power to influence, cause, or stop events that will decide the future of our most beloved Republic. Rush is just another talking head of irrelevant effectiveness -- otherwise, how did McCain win the nomination, before Palin got on board, and at a time when Rush had nearly bashed him to a pulp on his radio show?

Rush has zero elected power, and he has never been a kingmaker. He is entertaining, informative, and inspiring, but ultimately, impotent. I've been a listener since 1991, and he says what I love to hear about 98 percent of the time. It's gratifying, but not much more.

Listen, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Obama, Chuck Schumer -- they make bad things happen because they wield concrete power invested in them by virtue of being elected. They don't make things happen because "they talk and people listen." Rush talks and people listen. The Pelosis and Reids wield elected power and make things happen.

57 posted on 10/13/2011 12:03:28 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: lentulusgracchus; MNJohnnie; Clairity; Cincinatus' Wife; patriot08; shield; WOBBLY BOB
Sure, twinkletoes, whatever you say. What's your next act, trashing the Tea Party Express?


58 posted on 10/13/2011 12:06:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: WOBBLY BOB
There seems to be an all out effort to pit factions of the Republican party against each other so Obama skates thru. It would be nice if we didn't delight in our own destruction.

Its hard to believe Bill Kristol is so anti-Tea party when he was the lone voice championing Sarah Palin when no one here had ever heard her name. I'm really sick of thread after thread being devoted to this internal war. It serves NO PURPOSE!

59 posted on 10/13/2011 12:09:35 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Rush’s rant matched Joe Scarborough’s this morning from the Left. Between the two of them we will be losing the election and the country in ‘12.


60 posted on 10/13/2011 12:13:01 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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