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SHOCK POLL: Herman Cain Leads GOP Nationally! (PPP Poll has Romney trailing by 8 points)
Business Insider ^ | 10/12/2011 | Zeke Miller

Posted on 10/12/2011 12:37:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Businessman Herman Cain has risen to the top of a national poll of Republican primary voters, upending the GOP field yet again this cycle.

Cain has the support of 30 percent of Republicans in the Public Policy Polling survey, trailed by Mitt Romney at 22 percent, Newt Gingrich at 15 percent, and Rick Perry at 14 percent. Cain is also the second choice of 24 percent of those polled — the highest of any candidate.

In a two-person race, Romney would lead Perry 48-38, Cain would lead Romney 48-36, and Cain would destroy Perry 55-27.

The poll was conducted before last night's Washington Post-Bloomberg debate, in which Cain alienated some members of the tea party (his largest constituency) by saying he admired Alan Greenspan's leadership of the Federal Reserve.

PPP has a checkered history with polling — and this poll has a VERY large 4.5 percent margin of error — so don't read too much into this just yet.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cain; democratpoll; gop; hermancain; leftwingpollster; poll; polls; ppp; primary; pushpoll
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To: BenKenobi

I respect her tremendously, but I do not believe she has a reasonable chance of winning. Too bad.


81 posted on 10/12/2011 1:46:12 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BenKenobi

Blargh - ROMNEY, not Perry.


82 posted on 10/12/2011 1:46:12 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: SeekAndFind
A Cain/Newt ticket is not possible for the simple reason that they’re both GEORGIANS.
The 12th Amendment makes this impossible difficult unless either one of them changes official residency.
The 12th Amendment disincentivizes the nomination of both halves of the ticket from the same state by requiring that the electors of that state not vote for both. If both were from Wyoming or RI or Alaska, which have only one congressman and therefore only 3 electoral votes, the disincentive would scarcely matter in the context of 535 total electors, with 268 required for election, the difference of one or two electoral votes might not be a show stopper if you were confident of the drawing power of the VP candidate you had in mind.
And especially if you were confident of having a majority of the state delegations of the House and a majority in the Senate.

83 posted on 10/12/2011 1:46:30 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Its a bit silly but I would still pick him over Obama the community organizer.


84 posted on 10/12/2011 1:46:58 PM PDT by linn37
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To: SeekAndFind; South40

So much for the idea that only Perry could beat Romney, we heartless racists supporting Cain sure are getting uppity!


85 posted on 10/12/2011 1:48:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Vigilanteman

“The Perry fangirls need to talk their guy out of the race and quit siphoning votes from Herman Cain.”

Or else they must want Romney to win! A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney!

God it feels good to turn that around on them!


86 posted on 10/12/2011 1:48:39 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Highlander1754

Hi Noob! Your campaign against Herman Cain is apparent. Which campaign are you working for, and are you a paid hack or a volunteer?


87 posted on 10/12/2011 1:50:40 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Rick Perry's 2012 campaign is Fred Thompson v2.0)
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To: SeekAndFind

That would be pretty easy for Newt. He has been living outside of GA for years. I think he actually has a house in Fairfax County, VA.


88 posted on 10/12/2011 1:50:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: BenKenobi
Why would he have any need for Newt?
Gingrich is an almost perfect complement for Cain. Cain's major problem (if it is that) is he lacks experience as an elected official. Gingrich was probably the best Speaker of the House we've had in a long time.

Also, Gingrich is brilliant, a wonderful debater and is, by and large, an acceptable candidate (IMHO). He has considerable personal baggage, and I would not want him at the top of the ticket, but as VP, he would be terrific!

I honestly think that Cain/Gingrich might be the best ticket we could hope for.

Also, it would be so much fun to watch Cain and Gingrich mop up the floor with Obama and Biden during the debates (if Obama and Biden had the nerve to even show up).

That's just my opinion. You are certainly free to disagree.

89 posted on 10/12/2011 1:53:45 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Prokopton; magritte

The Wall Street Journal found PPP to be the most accurate pollster of the 2008 presidential election. Nate Silver, a respected statistician and founder of FiveThirtyEight has also found PPP to be one of the more accurate pollsters in recent times. PPP correctly predicted all six Wisconsin recall elections this year, even the races that Democrats lost. They’ve also correctly called all the special elections this year.


Golly....that sounds pretty “respectable” to me. I will however feel better about Cains’ chances when Rasmussen has him out front as I’ve always held Scott in high regard.


90 posted on 10/12/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Highlander1754
Hey Noob--what did you think about Ron Paul's false eyebrow failure last night?

It was impossible to pay attention to anything Ron Paul said with that hairy brown caterpillar creeping down over his eyelid. Very distracting. Why would a guy like Ron Paul wear fake eyebrows? ROFLMAO!

91 posted on 10/12/2011 1:55:45 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Rick Perry's 2012 campaign is Fred Thompson v2.0)
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To: BenKenobi
No, he hasn't. He has only caught everyone's attention as Perry self-immolated (I'm talking about those who unlike Freepers aren't obsessed with politics). His surge is similar to that of each of those I listed, coming from the bottom and obscurity to the top almost overnight. That sort of Mercurial rise has so far proven to be ephemeral.

I think he will fade back to be one of the leaders, but I doubt there will be any clear leader until after South Carolina's or even Florida's primary. There may be some winnowing, but with the number of debates ahead, all of the candidates can remain relevant for a long time with little actual money.

I don't think Mitt's money can put him over the top--it can keep him in the top tier, but he is just not popular.
92 posted on 10/12/2011 1:57:09 PM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Hey, if you really want to get a ticket that would have liberal heads exploding left and right (ok, just left), then Cain/Rubio would do the job! After all, such a ticket could only happen from a bunch of racists like conservative Republicans or is that reverse racists like conservative Republicans or something like that, anyway. And of course what makes it all even worse, these two are bona fide conservatives who are extremely articulate and straight shooters, uh, I mean straight talkers.


93 posted on 10/12/2011 1:57:36 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Highlander1754; All

Welcome to FR, who is your candidate?


94 posted on 10/12/2011 2:00:39 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: catnipman
This Floridian thinks Marco Rubio needs to stay in the U.S. Senate through his first term. Marco Rubio agrees.

Rubio is a lawyer. He is not a businessman or a rocket scientist.

95 posted on 10/12/2011 2:02:08 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Rick Perry's 2012 campaign is Fred Thompson v2.0)
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To: SeekAndFind

But
But
But

OH Boy...


96 posted on 10/12/2011 2:02:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: justsaynomore

My dreams are coming true!!!!

I adore this man.


97 posted on 10/12/2011 2:02:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Go Gordon
Do you think Newt would accept the VP spot if asked by Cain? He would provide the institutional knowledge that Cain doesn't necessarily have. (Plus I would love to see Newt debate Joe Biden)

Yes he would, but I don't think he would be the right pick for several reasons.

  1. Both Herman and Newt can be characterized as erratic gaffe machines. Herman will needs a steady #2.
  2. Both Herman and Newt are considered outsiders as far as the GOP establishment is concerned (yes, we think of Newt as an insider, but they never forgave him for rocking the boat with the Contract for America). The GOP establishment would go out of its way to defeat a Cain/Newt ticket just to keep the tea partiers in their place.
  3. Herman's #2 will need to compliment him, and by thati I mean be strong where Herman is weak: foreign policy and working Washington.

IMHO, the logical pick for Newt is a senior senator on the armed services committee. Someone that's been there a while, is respected in Washington (and knows how to work the Washington system), won't stick their foot in their outh, and is respected on both sides of the aisle when it comes to foreign policy. Someone like (barf alert--just an example) Sen. Lindsy Graham.

98 posted on 10/12/2011 2:03:20 PM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another poll just came out too, so the PPP is right in line

Cain 28% Romney 19%

http://evolving-strategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Evolving-Strategies-GOP-Electability-Experiment-ES.pdf


99 posted on 10/12/2011 2:03:20 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Highlander1754

Another poll just came out too, so the PPP is right in line

Cain 28% Romney 19%

http://evolving-strategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Evolving-Strategies-GOP-Electability-Experiment-ES.pdf


100 posted on 10/12/2011 2:04:47 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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