Posted on 09/27/2011 11:27:29 AM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran raised the prospect on Tuesday of sending military ships close to the United States' Atlantic coast, in what would be a major escalation of tensions between the long-standing adversaries.
"Like the arrogant powers that are present near our marine borders, we will also have a powerful presence close to American marine borders," the head of the Navy, Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari said, according to the official IRNA news agency.
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Yes, they could.
VZ was my first thought, also. Not to mention Cuba.
“Mass starvation would be the result. We cannot feed our current population with 1850s technology.”
BINGO!
I need to lay in a good supply of flint n steel........
You really think Iran has an EMP?
Do WE even have one?
I don’t think they are that retarded. If they attack us they will be destroyed.
I do hope they try it. The coral reefs need more scrap metal to build themselves up.
Actually, it can. The most weak-kneed, cowardly sob of a POTUS would have to defend the US coast from attack. Surrendering the keys to the country would be treason, and impeachable, and the military would not obey. And the US Navy could make a big old gorilla cookie out of the Iranian Navy any day, anywhere.
Full of yourself aren’t you ‘lil feller?
Here is quick and basic primer on EMP weapons.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/e-bomb.htm/printable
19 men in civilian airliners defeated all U.S. security measures on 9/11/01.(911 Commission)
So, they did accept the Obama invite to come for a visit?
Iran’s navy is mostly made up of 1970s American technology along with some 1980s and 1990s Russian hardware.
It’s about as much of a threat as the Russian navy, and that’s not saying much.
Even with the Perry’s being old and heading for decommissioning, a fleet of them would have fun sinking the Iranian Navy.
And when it gets one it will be about the same degree of sophistication as our WWII designs. They are an awful long way from fusion devices and a 15 or 20 kiloton device lobbed into space is NOT going to "blanket" the US from coast to coast. The expanding shell of electrons from a nuclear explosion will behave like radiant energy and follow the inverse square law. That is the electron density of the pulse will fall off by a factor of 4 for every doubling of distance between point of detonation and target. Thus you need to keep the blast close to the ground to have an effective EMP, but that will limit the area coverage. As you increase the altitude of the burst you get more area coverage (line of sight), but you reduce the electron density of the pulse (current). There is no way to have it both ways. An air burst of a 20 kiloton device is not TEOTWAWKI. To blanket the US from coast to coast would take something like a 50 megaton device detonated at 300 miles over Kansas city.
The USSR tested the Tsar Bomba at 57 megatons but never put them in inventory. I believe they really scared themselves when they popped that cork.
The reason I postulate a 15 to 20 Kiloton device for the Iranian's first device is as follows. There are two fuels that can be used to produce a fission bomb, U235 and Pu209. And there are two basic designs for assembling a super-critical mass, gun assembly and implosion. U235 is about 7% of natural uranium with the balance being U238. Enriching it by separating the two isotopes is a difficult and expensive task. Plutonium209 is a man made element that is the product of exposing uranium to the neutron flux in a nuclear reactor. Separating the plutonium from the uranium is much easier as it is a chemical process because they are two separate elements, not isotopes.
Why did Iran undertake the Uranium separation process and not the easier plutonium route? Because the spontaneous release of neutrons for plutonium is such that you only have micro seconds to assemble a critical mass whereas when using uranium you can do the assembly in milliseconds. Which brings us to the two assembly methods: The gun type bomb is a simple artillery field piece with a sub critical uranium bullet fired into a sub critical target. The process takes milliseconds and is simple and reliable. The implosion device takes a sub critical mass of either PU or U and surrounds it with high explosive lenses that create an inward moving shock-wave that compresses the core (pit), raising it's density in microseconds which drives it into criticallity. The trick takes very precise timing of the detonators firing the HE and sophisticated electronics that are generally tightly controlled.
In a nutshell, implosion can use either fuel but requires very sophisticated and precise electronics. The gun type assembly only works with Uranium, if you try to fire plutonium in a gun type device you will certainly get a fizzle.
Regards,
GtG
Iranian sailors will sleep with the fishes.
As long as the socialist Putz remains ensconced in the Oval Office, threats against America’s heartland grow and grow - from Iran and others.
Is THIS change we can live with?????
The differences between ANY of the GOP candidate PALE when compared with this mocking obscenity sitting in Washington.
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Not to worry, our CiC will open a dialog - schedule a sit-down...
Ah, yes...a Tea Summit. That will do it.
After 0bama bows to Achmadinajad and kisses his ring.
During the hostage taking by Iran one of the t-shirts that I wore read:
Made in America
Test on Japan
Harm one man and we will drop it on Iran
Sounds appropriate here if we can get a real conservative elected.
[Mr] T
We have more to fear from the Mexican cartels than these big mouthed wannabe trouble makers.
While we have no control over the mexican border, the east coast is stitched up tighter than a drum. Absolutely nothing above the size of a 10 meter boat moves undetected, and nothing flying bigger than a J-3 goes without notice. And this is for several hundred miles off the coast.
We need to do some good old time shouldering and crowding exercises with this floatsom. Bring it on.
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