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To: MNnice

hm... well I guess that means she’s not running for sure, because if she was running she would no longer be a “private citizen” subject to protection, but a public servant subject to any and all attacks.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 4:31:58 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Get help.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 4:33:52 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Even if she did run now, she was a private citizen when the book was published.


9 posted on 09/26/2011 4:35:00 PM PDT by MNnice (Showing fresh signs of liberalitis, the strain of the orbital muscles due to excessive eye rolling)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Well, her children were defamed also (especially Trig and Track), and they most definitely private citizens.


10 posted on 09/26/2011 4:35:37 PM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (ATLAS SHRUGGED was supposed to be a warning, NOT a newspaper.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

hm... well I guess that means she’s not running for sure, because if she was running she would no longer be a “private citizen” subject to protection, but a public servant subject to any and all attacks.

***

The crime happened while she was a private citizen.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 4:35:54 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I think I ran into you yesterday. Weren’t you whining about “haters” showing up on Perry threads and questioning a Perry supporter’s Vanity/Manifesto?

Does your post make you a “hater,” too?


13 posted on 09/26/2011 4:36:43 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There is a two year window in which to file. And there’s no reason she couldn’t file after the election seeing she was a private citizen when the defamation occurred. Don’t get your hopes up.


14 posted on 09/26/2011 4:37:43 PM PDT by bcsco (Take a Cain - and cure the Pain!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
she would no longer be a “private citizen” subject to protection, but a public servant subject to any and all attacks.

Incorrect. The bar is much higher for public v private but it is still there.

If Crown published lies as fact knowing they had no basis then they are in big trouble. Public or Private that is not allowed.

18 posted on 09/26/2011 4:39:10 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Can we ask questions which God finds unanswerable? Easily. All nonsense questions are unanswerable.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I guess that means she’s not running for sure...”
For sure?! Really?
Wishful thinking or are you a libel/defamation lawyer?


25 posted on 09/26/2011 4:40:43 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t believe that there is a difference in the legal rights of a public official versus any other public figure.

Sarah Palin is a public figure and will be one whether or not she runs for President.

In order for libel to be shown against a public figure, the public figure has to show actual malice. It appears that in light of the author’s emails, there may well have been actual malice both by him and by Random House.


43 posted on 09/26/2011 4:55:19 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
if she was running she would no longer be a “private citizen” subject to protection, but a public servant subject to any and all attacks

A "public servant" is an elected official, not a private citizen running for office...........

Please explain how an individual not yet serving the public can be classified as a public servant?????

44 posted on 09/26/2011 4:56:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"but a public servant subject to any and all attacks"

Even a public person has protection against intentional libel.

And, it's clear she can PROVE the author and the publisher knew the information to be both false and harmful.

Prima facie case of libel.

Random House will shortly have a new owner.

45 posted on 09/26/2011 4:56:32 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t believe that there is a difference in the legal rights of a public official versus any other public figure.

Sarah Palin is a public figure and will be one whether or not she runs for President.

In order for libel to be shown against a public figure, the public figure has to show actual malice. It appears that in light of the author’s emails, there may well have been actual malice both by him and by Random House.


56 posted on 09/26/2011 5:16:31 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I disagree with your reasoning, since she already is a public figure.

On the other hand, I did think when I saw this that it lowered the probability of her runinng — just because I can’t ever remember a politician in a campaign battle actually being in the middle of a defamation suit.

It also seems that by filing suit, she will make every allegation in his book “news-worthy”. Which wouldn’t be a problem in her current position, but could make things more difficult in terms of getting widespread popular support and changing her image in the minds of the independents she needs to get elected, should she be running for President.

But guessing whether Palin is running or not is a fool’s game. She’ll decide one way or another, she’ll announce it, and then we’ll know — and before that, she might as well be Shrodinger’s cat.


62 posted on 09/26/2011 5:25:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TexasFreeper2009

...what about the other family members....tagged in this graffiti?


64 posted on 09/26/2011 5:29:01 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: TexasFreeper2009
[A] public servant subject to any and all attacks.

I don't think you fully comprehend The New York Times Co. v. Sullivan

You cannot knowingly print deliberate falsehoods. It is apparent from the posting on Breitbard, that the publish knew, or should reasonably known, that what it was printing about Palin contained unsubstantiated malicious rumors.

70 posted on 09/26/2011 5:39:17 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Nope,,, not the case at all. She was private when the tort of the book publishing occurred. Has no bearing at all on what she may do in the future. Nice try Perrywinkle.


75 posted on 09/26/2011 5:50:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Not quite true. The ruling would be on her current status - not her future status.

Oh - and when the writer admits in a now-public email he wrote unsubstantiated crap, being a public figure isn’t a defense.


89 posted on 09/26/2011 7:16:02 PM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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