Posted on 09/24/2011 7:48:26 AM PDT by kristinn
ORLANDO -- There's no scientific polling, but talks with dozens of delegates who will vote in today's Florida straw poll suggest that many are making last-minute decisions to vote for Herman Cain.
What seems to be happening is this: A lot of delegates came to Orlando planning to vote for Rick Perry. But Perry's poor performance at Thursday night's Fox News-Google debate gave them pause and re-opened the question of whom they will support. And many of the conservatives who were attracted to Perry will, when asked for a second choice, naturally gravitate to Cain, who, it just happens, had a particularly good debate on Thursday. So with Perry not commanding the loyalty he did just 48 hours ago, Cain appears to be picking up support.
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Nonsense. Most FReepers are familiar with the expression as is anyone who has ever paid any reasonable amount of attention to the Israel-Palestine issue. It is one of the top sticking points between the two sides and it has come up every time the subject has been discussed (for example in Bibi's speech to the U.N. yesterday). You make yourself look stupid and dishonest by spouting off such nonsense.
Most “politicians” would have faked their ignorance of the term with some generic response that implied they knew what it meant. Cain came right out and asked... and then followed up with his own research to gain knowledge on the issue.
You describe what Cain did inaccurately, and besides, the overwhelming majority of American politicians, pundits, and educated people in general know exactly what the "right of return" is.
Along the same lines as a previous post, I suspect that one of the reasons Cain gets little press in the MSM is that if the Republicans nominate Cain, then the charge of racism goes away forever.
>>> You describe what Cain did inaccurately
How so?
>>> You make yourself look stupid and dishonest by spouting off such nonsense.
Ignorance is one thing... stupidity is another.
You reveal your liberal leanings by continuing your insults.
Post the link, pls.
>>> Proof that you are an idiot and/or a liar:
That video is precisely what I was referring to.
At the moment “right of return” was mentioned,
Cain repeated the term TWICE using a voice inflection
that was clearly interrogative for clarification...
Until Chris Wallace specified quote: “The Palestinian’s right of return”.
Wallace was CLEARLY testing Cain for his knowledge of terminology, because he did not clarify that “right of return” referred to anything more than what it sounds like until Cain answered based upon Wallace’s weaker and incomplete clarification.
Wallace could have easily given the full clarification of what he was referring to the first time Cain asked for it.
Your apparent inability to see through what was going on illustrates again that you either don’t get it, or you are part of the smear apparatus.
I seriously suspect you are in this forum under false pretenses.
Go troll somewhere else. Only liberal trolls use name calling to re-inforce their points.
In his lifetime it has been, especially at the time he served in its ranks.
Banking insider = no way in hell he gets my vote (and a lot of people will feel this way)
>>> Banking insider = no way in hell he gets my vote (and a lot of people will feel this way)
I saw the video where he responded to this charge.
It didn’t sound to me like he was either real high up in the chain or that he was any kind of insider.
I remember him mentioning a FED branch in Kansas that he was serving at, and that his duties involved serving on some board of directors for that region... but I do not know if my memory of that video serves me well.
Maybe you have more specific details about his service (when and where) that would qualify him as a “banking insider”.
I would certainly like to know.
I find it interesting that we can so easily disqualify someone like Cain for related government service, while at
the same time disqualifying him for NOT serving in elected government office. Under that line of thinking, Bachman should be disqualified as a “Washington Insider”.
Why doesn’t it work both ways?
The votes were:
Rick Perry – 42.86%
Mitt Romney - 28.57 %
Herman Cain – 19.05%
Jon Huntsman – 9.52%
The remaining candidates – Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, and Rick Santorum received no votes.
Gordon McCleary, the Wakulla Republican Club’s President said, “It will be interesting to see how this vote matches up with Presidency 5. Wakulla mirrors the makeup of the Sunshine State so I believe the results are representative of Republicans as a whole.”
Are you really this completely ignorant of what is going on in the USA today that THIS is the issue you are hanging your vote on?
Also he has a devastating column he penned in 2005 that he's going to have a hard time getting past, should he ever be a serious enough candidate for someone to care.
Given what we have seen from the "experienced" politicians, more of the same in 2012 will be a disaster. The election of either may be the ONLY thing that will wake up the Political Class to what a mess they have made of everything. From what we have seen so far this primary season, it is painfully obvious the US's Political Class has no clue what a mess they have created.
We cannot afford in 2012 another round of the "pass the baton" game the political Establishment of both parties wants to play every election season.
We are pass the point where we can keep playing this "politics as usual" game.
>>> He didn’t just work at the Fed bank, he was chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. You don’t get to that level if you’re not a banking insider.
That sounds pretty presumptive to me. Kansas is a pretty conservative state... and a Kansas post is hardly DC level insider status the way I see it.
>>> Also he has a devastating column he penned in 2005 that he’s going to have a hard time getting past
Ok... I just read that full article you linked... Thanks for responding with substance!
What is it about that article that Cain is going to have a hard time with? The article is about how MSM slants the news and uses scare tactics to promote democrats.
I wish that was all. Its not. You could write a book just on how poor the coverage has been of the alleged housing bubble. The media have been foretelling a massive bust in housing prices for months now. On May 19, ABCs Elizabeth Vargas said: The run up in housing prices is now beginning to look something like the boom in Internet stocks, and we know what happened there. That kind of ignorance makes homeowners fear that their most expensive possession could turn worthless overnight.
Oops!
Also he was a big bailout supporter (surprise) and tried to backtrack when it was clear it would be a major problem for his Prez bid.
This just in! Herman Cain wins the Florida straw poll!!! NOT PERRY!
Thats what I thought... failing to predict the housing crash?
First of all, lets keep in mind what the article was about... MSM slanting of the news. Was the MSM blaming Bush? or were they pointing to the real culprit which was Fanny May/ Freddie Mac???
Second, you seem to be faulting Cain for not being able to predict the future.
NOW... if you have some evidence that Cain sheltered or defended Fannie May/Freddie Mac (such as him supporting the community re-investment act) THEN you will have something.
If you can point me to where Herman Cain suggested that federal involvement in private industry was ok, THEN I will be convinced. I certainly don’t read Cain as a big government kind of guy, and you and me both know that it is Big Government which brought on this housing bubble and crash... 3 YEARS AFTER your “devastating” article by Herman Cain.
>>> Also he was a big bailout supporter
SHOW ME.... I want to see it. If it’s true, I won’t defend Cain... i’ll be in your corner.
Now don’t anyone jump all over me because I am on the record saying I would gladly vote for him if he got the momentum..but could people possibly be concerned with his health?
>>> but could people possibly be concerned with his health?
It’s always a concern. That’s why you have a good vice president.
But if you have tested cancer free for 5 years, that’s a pretty good indication you have licked it.
True to form he later supported the bailouts when it mattered. It's easy to backtrack afterwards - what a leader needs to do is lead in the right direction during a moment of crisis, rather than panic.
So one of two things must be true. Either he was incompetent as Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City (hint: you do not dabble and get this position), and is an affirmative-action candidate; or he knew at the time what it was his business to know, and told the public the exact opposite, helping the very people who did the wrong thing to cash in in a very big way on my back and yours. The moronic, arbitrary economics of his "9-9-9" plan, seemingly tailored for their marketing purposes exclusively, could be construed to support either view.
Cain may paint a pretty picture now, but when it counted he wasn't on your side or mine.
>>> This just in! Herman Cain wins the Florida straw poll!!! NOT PERRY!
LOL!... he didn’t just win, he devastated them!
I went to fox, and they seem more interested in the fact that Perry came in second!... ROFL!!!
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