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Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal
weeklystandard ^ | Thursday September 22, 2011 | JOHN MCCORMACK

Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants

Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.

"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amnesty; byebyeperry; debates; dreamact; illegals; immigration; openborderperry; palin; perry; perry4dreamact; perry4illegals; perry4openborders; perryisademocrat; rickperry; rino; rinoperry; sarahpalin; texas
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To: Norm Lenhart

>> Why run closer to the place you escaped?

Good point.


261 posted on 09/22/2011 10:33:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: Carling

Ignore the nitwits and misfits.

There are 9 more debates. Oct 11 at Dartmouth College in NH. Then Las Vegas. Perry can come back.

After the first Reagan-Mondale debate in 1984, everyone was saying Reagan lost and he’s done. Reagan fooled them all and came back to win the second debate against Mondale and pulverize Fritz in the general election.

This is far from over!


262 posted on 09/22/2011 10:34:24 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: P-Marlowe
You got a problem with that?

Yeah, I got a problem with that. The illegals in the state of CA are a big part of breaking this state. They are shutting down our hospitals and overcrowding our schools all the while not paying into our system in the way of taxes.

Instead, I pay their way as they parade around our streets protesting me with their Mexican flags and Che T-shirts and screaming at me how racist I am. so, ...yeah, I got a problem with that.

They come to this country illegally and they game the system by getting food stamps using fake ID's and taking those resources away from our legal citizens so,...yeah, I got a problem with that.

And don't kid yourself about those innocent little kids in school. I work in one 45 miles away from the San Ysidro border crossing. They tell me how many times they go back and forth across the border to visit Grandma, laughing about crossing with fake papers so,....yeah, I got a problem with that.

263 posted on 09/22/2011 10:34:24 PM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: P-Marlowe
You got a problem with that?

Yeah, I got a problem with that. The illegals in the state of CA are a big part of breaking this state. They are shutting down our hospitals and overcrowding our schools all the while not paying into our system in the way of taxes.

Instead, I pay their way as they parade around our streets protesting me with their Mexican flags and Che T-shirts and screaming at me how racist I am. so, ...yeah, I got a problem with that.

They come to this country illegally and they game the system by getting food stamps using fake ID's and taking those resources away from our legal citizens so,...yeah, I got a problem with that.

And don't kid yourself about those innocent little kids in school. I work in one 45 miles away from the San Ysidro border crossing. They tell me how many times they go back and forth across the border to visit Grandma, laughing about crossing with fake papers so,....yeah, I got a problem with that.

264 posted on 09/22/2011 10:34:33 PM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: Electric Graffiti

I’m sick of paying for an invasion of my own country. Deport 2nd and 3rd generations of illegals.

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AMEN!!! And my father and stepfather were both immigrants (legal) who risked their lives to come to America. They didn’t get tuition breaks either.


265 posted on 09/22/2011 10:34:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

We keep agreeing and one of us will have to buy the beer ;)

In AZ there are many good people from Mexico who I don’t know for sure their citizenship. And since I’m on a drug route, there is a reason there’s a loaded shotgun in arms reach at all times at home.

These “kids” of the illegals are forming nice little gangs with names like MS13 and others. And they shoot people regularly even here in the sticks. I know they are illegal because I used to type that into the police blotter daily at the paper I worked at.

For every cherubic little face, there’s a tattooed little Vato looking to and making his bones. Those bleeding hearts that don’t live in it think it’s the cherubic kind we want sent away. The problem is the little cherubs grow up to be the vatos. And people are raped, robbed and killed to satisfy their ‘wants needs and desires.’

Or for no reason at all.


266 posted on 09/22/2011 10:35:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: P-Marlowe; dragnet2

We need to do away with anchor baby provisions as well. It only feeds them.

There are many who come to the US for health care who LEAVE once their children are born.


267 posted on 09/22/2011 10:36:58 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: SteveAustin

Perry didn’t practice, I respect his desire to just be himself but his performance wasn’t presidential. It wasn’t justth substance of those answers, it was his lack of - gravitas.

He’s probably a great guy and would be a good president. I wanted him to beat Romney.


268 posted on 09/22/2011 10:37:07 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Nancee

BUMP!!


269 posted on 09/22/2011 10:38:20 PM PDT by Nancee
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To: Reagan Man; Norm Lenhart

Why don’t you post something a little more recent.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2782503/posts?page=48#48


270 posted on 09/22/2011 10:38:53 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin:"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Bigtigermike

Rick Perry is presenting us with a false choice. He acts as if we must either subsidize the education of illegal alien young people in order to make the middle-class citizens or continue to provide them with entitlements. Real conservatives would opt for a third direction. We can send the illegal aliens home. We can stop providing them with entitlements, and our withdrawing benefits for people who are breaking our laws will give them less incentive to break our immigration laws. If we need low-paid, low-skill workers, we can establish a program to bring them here as needed and make their employers cover their expenses. We can save the spaces in our universities so that American young people can get an education and rise to or remain in the middle class.


271 posted on 09/22/2011 10:39:48 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Reagan Man

Funny, I don’t hear her kissing LaRaza’s tush like someone else I could mention, nor giving them all freebies....


272 posted on 09/22/2011 10:40:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: P-Marlowe
Right now, illegals are having nearly 1000 anchor babies per month at Dallas Parkland Hospital.

The Texas Dream act is irrelevant to these kids because they are considered CITIZENS.

Well, considering how Perry has aided abetted, rewarded and pandered to illegals, I'd say he's going to draw a hell of a lot more illegals into Texas....With coupons and incentives, look for an instant "citizen" explosion to escalate in the lone star state.

273 posted on 09/22/2011 10:40:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dusttoyou

During their 3 years in HS, them and their illegal parents, like every other Texas citizen, paid State Sales tax and Local Shool tax, whereas out of state students have not paid a dime toward Texas schools.

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If they are ILLEGAL how can they prove that? (Local school tax).


274 posted on 09/22/2011 10:40:21 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Indeed it does. :)


275 posted on 09/22/2011 10:42:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: hinckley buzzard

SANTORUM:

“And why should they be given preferential treatment as an illegal in this country? That’s what we’re saying.

(APPLAUSE)

SANTORUM: And so, yes, I would say that he is soft on illegal immigration. I think the fact that he doesn’t want to build a fence — he gave a speech in 2001 where he talked about, buy national health insurance between Mexico and Texas. I mean, I don’t even think Barack Obama would be for buy national health insurance.

So I think he’s very weak on this issue of American sovereignty and protecting our borders and not being a magnet for illegal immigration, yes.

WALLACE: Governor Perry, 30 seconds to respond, sir.

PERRY: I’ve got one question for him.

Have you ever even been to the border with Mexico?

SANTORUM: Yes.

PERRY: I’m surprised if you have, but you weren’t paying attention, because the idea that you —

SANTORUM: Well, the answer is, yes, I have.

PERRY: — are going to build a wall, a fence for 1,200 miles, and then go 800 miles more to Tijuana, does not make sense. You put the boots on the ground.

We know how to make this work. You put the boots on the ground.

You put the aviation assets —

SANTORUM: But it’s not working, Governor.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/22/fox-news-google-gop-2012-presidential-debate/#ixzz1YkcKtB2j

Even the candidates, with low poll numbers (for now) bring a lot into the debate.


276 posted on 09/22/2011 10:42:29 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: mikhailovich
The U.S. Department of Education mandates that all states educate their students. Proof of citizenship is not a pre-requisite. Therefore, local I.S.D's are forced to educate their local students. Nobody on the state level can deport these people or turn them away from a public education. Perry and Texas took a bold and decisive stand on the issue - to educate EVERYONE at state tuition rates if they can pass the SAT or ACT. We already had to educate them from K-12 and had no choice in the matter.

I know states were required to educate them. I'm saying it is WRONG to force American payers, at the point of a gun, to provide education, or anything else, to people who have broken our laws. This was/is WRONG, and being the Federal government and illegal immigrants get to pick the laws they'll go by, maybe the American people should too.

People including hundreds here on FR need to think more practically and less with a beer mug and armchair reaction. This is real life for people in Texas. Both white and hispanic. Real life for real people. The failure of the federal government should not be placed on the backs of Texans who want all residents to succeed with an education. Including a college education if they can cut the mustard.

Had the citizens of Texas, and other border states, been thinking more piratically, and used a little logic, the rest of the country could have been spared from this invasion. I say again, "It is irrational to educate people who can not legally work here." If the reason for looking the other way was because employers needed cheap labor, you only encourage more illegal immigration by educating illegal immigrants. You educate them out of, "jobs Americans won't do", into jobs Americans NEED, creating the NEED for more cheap labor. You also encourage more to come here illegally to receive a free education. I realize you've gotten use to it, but I don't want to live in Latin America.

It's disgusting how disrespectfully Americans have been treated over this issue. We have been betrayed by all branches of our government.

277 posted on 09/22/2011 10:44:48 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Personally, I think you go after employers and go after them hard. Take away the job and they will self deport and you also take away the primary incentive to come here illegally in the first place. Somewhere along the line the employers are citizens and can be forced to pay a steep price for stealing from the community by passing costs on to the community while getting the selfish benefits of cheap labor.

And if I wasn’t clear, if someone is legally a citizen - anchor babies and all - they are legally entitled to what other citizens are entitled to. So I’m not arguing that point.

The federal government is constitutionally charged with controlling immigration. I think federal immigration law should trump state law for that reason. Otherwise if one state provides incentives/welcomes illegals to come here then once the illegals are here they are free to travel to other states and impose costs on those other states. That single state becomes a gateway for illegal immigration into the country.

The problem isn’t the lack of laws at this point (though I agree about the anchor baby issue) it is the laws are not enforced. When laws become selectively enforced you end up with no respect for the law and are no longer governed by law but instead the whim of the law enforcers - you become essentially a banana republic.

Otherwise I’d say let Texans do what they want.


278 posted on 09/22/2011 10:45:27 PM PDT by DB
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To: Razz Barry

“It’s disgusting how disrespectfully Americans have been treated over this issue. We have been betrayed by all branches of our government. “

Abso-freaking-lutely true.


279 posted on 09/22/2011 10:46:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Bigtigermike

I can’t help but think that Perry - following in the august footsteps of Clinton, the Bush dynasties, and Obama - was bought off long ago with drug and human trafficking money.


280 posted on 09/22/2011 10:47:16 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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