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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: MSNBC

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

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To: ecomcon

The design of this debate was to give Perry the most pitches/questions. Other candidates were then able to process his answers and respond. A total hack job.


1,921 posted on 09/07/2011 10:06:09 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Free Vulcan
right you are Vulcan...No one under 50 offended by Perry remark that SS is in need of fixing.. I'm almost 70 and I know it needs change..my two adult children pay outrageous amounts to SS and they both know they will never see a return at this rate, so they feel they are contributing to their parents monthly checks and we thanks them every month a check arrives. we also invested in a 401 and other savings as we know it may not last our life time either.. when you are old you don't need a lot...'things' mean nothing as you age.. life is short...don't forget to smell the flowers on your way...♥
1,922 posted on 09/07/2011 10:12:01 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: All
Video: Watch the full Reagan Library Republican debate (archived video)
1,923 posted on 09/07/2011 10:12:54 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: mylife
Romney thinks B.Hussein Obama is a nice guy!!!

NOT when you allow your VP and your Union buddy call Americans ‘sons of Bitches’ and Barbarian's...that does not make a nice guy...

Now we know Romney is a poor judge of character...

1,924 posted on 09/07/2011 10:16:20 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: EDINVA

I believe that giving kids condoms encourages sex, mostly because it is an adult affirmation that you are expected to be having sex. Also, to the degree you might be scared of getting a girl pregnant or catching a disease, the condom removes that fear.

But I don’t buy that people are deciding not to have sex because of HPV. So I don’t think getting a vaccination that only protects you from half the HPV cases would change that equation.

I have never been impressed by Gardisil, but it is amazing the large number of women who end up getting HPV. Assuming Gardisil didn’t have side effects, and was effective, unless you were certain to marry someone who was a virgin, it might well be worthwhile to get vaccinated.

Virginia required HPV vaccinations for a while, I think they stopped. My daughter never got the vaccine, it’s up to her now since she’s 18.


1,925 posted on 09/07/2011 10:16:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: alstewartfan
Uncle Arthur? lol! :-)

And Dr. Bombay could be Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

RuPaul embarrassed himself again tonight. A border fence would keep Americans in?! I know he's not all there but does he really think Americans will be trying to escape America to Mexico?!

I wonder what his supporters will have to say about that. Given what I know about them they probably think it was a reasoned response.

1,926 posted on 09/07/2011 10:18:57 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: caww

“I didn’t hear the speech by Obozo...”

It’s Thursday night.


1,927 posted on 09/07/2011 10:20:30 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: bvw
Yeah, but you have to make up one for Cain too.

Frankly, not that extraordinary.

1,928 posted on 09/07/2011 10:25:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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To: haircutter

Perry called Obama an abject liar.

Milt called him a nice guy.
McCain would not utter his middle name.


1,929 posted on 09/07/2011 10:27:27 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: comebacknewt

I don’t support a border wall either.

I support an air-dropped, often-refreshed border “smart” minefield. Problem solved in less than a month. Wall would take too long and wouldn’t stop anyone from dozing right through.


1,930 posted on 09/07/2011 10:28:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: casinva

Like, oh, myself and my circle of friends. We’re under 40, we KNOW we’re not going to see dime one of anything we’ve paid in. Ever.

Social Security, as it exists right this second, IS a Ponzi scheme.


1,931 posted on 09/07/2011 10:32:01 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Anima Mundi

Newt believes in Man-Made Global Warming and supports taxation and other schemes to mitigate it. That tosses him right out.


1,932 posted on 09/07/2011 10:33:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

If Palin doesn’t declare soon, she won’t be on several primary ballots, to say the least. Things have changed since 1980.

I am interested in Palin, but as long as she is undeclared, she’s not really a candidate, now is she?


1,933 posted on 09/07/2011 10:36:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: advance_copy
The way to fix illegal immigration is to ban anyone who comes into our country illegally from ever becoming a citizen of the U.S. and therefore banned from ever voting. You break into the U.S., you never get to be a citizen. Then the open borders amnesty-supporting Democrats will stop supporting illegal immigration.

Good, but it would have to be a Constitutional amendment. Otherwise a future congress could change immigration policy.

1,934 posted on 09/07/2011 10:37:17 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: MikefromOhio
So produce them, with links. Please.

Mike, you're probably a nice guy, so I'm not going to go snarky on you for puffing up your chest at me like that. It's late, and I'm in no mood to honor your request at the moment.

That said, I made about the most provable claim you can make on this forum. You don't need me to prove anything to you. The ugliness I spoke of is littered all over the place. Just take a look. Nearly anywhere. It's utterly rampant.

1,935 posted on 09/07/2011 10:46:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Enough is ENOUGH
You and me both, brother.

Thanks for the link -- I love the quotes!

1,936 posted on 09/07/2011 10:46:49 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Outlaw Woman
Quit acting like you're the blog police. Your insistence on acting like a drama queen pretty much points out YOU as having the agenda! Listen, NO one died and left you in charge (thank God!).

BTW-Already posted my references. Look it up. While you're at it you might run across your lie accusation aimed at moi. I really don't care if you agree with me, but if you have nothing civil to say just go away.

1,937 posted on 09/07/2011 10:49:11 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Windflier
:(

There is nastiness from all sides. It's very sad really. Compared to the DummycRATS, all our candidates are better informed and have tons of real life experience. It is disheartening to see everyone at each other’s jugular. I'd rather be at Obama’s jugular. Just saying. : (

1,938 posted on 09/07/2011 10:52:20 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: antceecee

You are unhinged. There is no reasoning with you or challenging your statements. Drama Queen? Yep that pretty much sums up your ‘over the edge’ reaction to being challenged.

I’m not looking up your sources from your previous posts. You made the accusation tonite; now back it up.


1,939 posted on 09/07/2011 10:58:56 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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To: Chgogal
There is nastiness from all sides. It's very sad really.

I agree. It would have been very nice if some folks had just let us Palin supporters express our admiration for her without going postal on us. I was never looking for a fight, but I will fight back. Daddy taught me that well.

1,940 posted on 09/07/2011 11:02:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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