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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: MSNBC

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

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To: newzjunkey; All

I just found out that my cable company doesn’t carry PMSNBC.

I may send them a thank you note.........


1,461 posted on 09/07/2011 7:01:48 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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To: advance_copy

Will revrund Al call out his bosses @pmsnbc that Cain didn’t get a fair shake in terms of questions amd face time.


1,462 posted on 09/07/2011 7:02:05 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Barry, eat your own damn peas.)
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To: All

Well since everyone is giving final impressions.

Paul did badly. No one noticed Santorum was on stage most of the time. Newt had the biggest applause but he doesn’t have a shot at the nomination.

Bachmann gave stock answer the first half of the debate and only livened up in the second half.

Cain was good.

Romney was good PERFORMANCE wise but some of his answers on issue are dealbreakers along with Huntsman. I don’t care how good they talk, I hate what is coming from their mouth.

Perry started strong, had a weak spell in the middle, finished strong. They didn’t knock him out. Certainly held his own against well...everyone. He was tonight’s pinata.


1,463 posted on 09/07/2011 7:02:15 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: DRey

Perry wanted to have the vaccination covered. 3 shots $360 each. IF you opt in it is not covered. IF it is opt out it is fully covered. That is why he did it that way!!!


1,464 posted on 09/07/2011 7:02:15 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: KansasGirl

I know Cain could beat Obama in debate. I really think any of them could. But Cain can’t fire up the base, and he can’t beat Obama in the general. Just my feeling. But frankly, after this debate, I could vote for any of them except Paul...and maybe I could vote for Paul...like I voted for McCain. Really, I think we’re in good shape.


1,465 posted on 09/07/2011 7:02:30 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: maica

Your head is in the sand.

Your advice doesn’t work in the long run.


1,466 posted on 09/07/2011 7:02:56 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Basically, he’s saying Perry will lead us down the same path, but be more deceptive about it before getting into office.

I have seen where the President is leading us, and I know where four more years of that leadership will bring us.

I'm not going there.

I know who the wolf is.

I'll take my chances on what looks like a sheep.

1,467 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:00 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Signalman

You just missed Al Sharpton diss Perry for his rube answer that involved “Gahlayo”

What a bunch of farking morons


1,468 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:20 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
UGH! Greta has McLame on tonight. I think I am going to sleep for sure.

Sheesh, are they not allowed to talk about the debate since it was on another channel?

1,469 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:21 PM PDT by Marathoner (Government schools = Marxist indoctrination centers)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Yeah, the more I see and learn of Perry the less comfortable I am with him as well. Palin’s my candidate, but at this point I think I’d go with Mitt, Newt, Cain or Bachmann over Perry—and that surprises me.


1,470 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jedidah

“He’s a cool customer.”

Yeah, boy. Not sure about him yet, but he plants his feet and stands. Cowboy boots and all.


1,471 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: wastedyears

Oh, no... McLame and Lindsey Grahamnesty on Greta. Time for bed.


1,472 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:32 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: opentalk
Newt is by far the quickest thinker on his feet. Too bad he has so much other baggage that it a non-starter for getting my vote.

I really like Bachmann, but she isn't a superstar in the debate at all (but she didn't do too bad.)

Still not sold on Rick Perry - but I'm more than willing to listen more to him. He may be our best hope.

Romney had a few good moments....offset by some ever worse moments- I will never vote for him.

Ron Paul is crazy

Huntsman isn't crazy, he's just running for the nomination in the wrong party.

Nothing wrong with Cain, he just won't get the nomination.

Santorum is a great man, but I just don't see him as President.

Sarah should be in by now if she wanted to be taken seriously.

1,473 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:38 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: opentalk

The media is afraid of Newt..he is way too brilliant and I did notice he didn’t mince words or stutter tonight. Cain was excellent too. The rest all tied for last imo


1,474 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:43 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: caww; All

MSNBC just announced the Media Meme for the Debate:

“Perry FAILED!”


1,475 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats have been OUTFORCING America's jobs for 40 years)
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To: KansasGirl
I agree with you. Herman Cain is everything that Barrack Obama is not. On a personal note; I don't know which of the GOP contenders would make the best candidate, but I am convinced Cain would make the best President of the bunch.
1,476 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:55 PM PDT by 07Jack
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To: combat_boots

Now they Got Sharpton on, great place for liars to seem legit, thanks MSNBC for letting the ‘I’ve seen the tape’ liar on.


1,477 posted on 09/07/2011 7:03:55 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Sarah Palin will always have a place in the party. She's a great KINGAKER. That's what she is doing now and just needs to keep on keeping on.

Palin is the defactor leader of the Tea Party and one of the best things going for the cause of conservatism. She is the closest to a purist we've got IMO. She has potential to be a King Maker at many levels - national, state, etc. But so far the candidates are doing it on their own. Perry is not the front runner because of Palin. It's a minor quibble but I don't think she has been selecting candidates thus far. She has been engaged at a higher level and influencing what these candidates are talking about. Therefore she has influenced the overall debate itself. I think that's even more important than a political kingmaker of specific individuals. A minor quibble that's all.

1,478 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:06 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: DRey

Revrund Al is RAAAACIST!!! He didn’t even mention/notice :erman Cain. Raaaacist, Al. Raaaacist.


1,479 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:06 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Barry, eat your own damn peas.)
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To: Jane Long
>>Hannity’s not talking about the debate now :(<<

FNC isn’t even touching the debate.

1,480 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:13 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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