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I am wondering if this is just a different form of redistribution of wealth (jobs to foreign countries) that Obama had in mind.................
1 posted on 09/01/2011 4:48:01 AM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

Or imported labor.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 4:50:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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This story should blow up huge. An iconic American company being hassled about wood, and being told to ship jobs overseas? This should be the GOP response to Obama’s speech—a brief telling of this story. The title of the response should be “All You Need To Know.”


3 posted on 09/01/2011 4:50:30 AM PDT by Huck (I don't believe there is just one God--humanity seems like the work of a committee to me.)
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Where is the pleading? Proof positive of treasonous action on the part of the administration.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 4:51:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Toss in the story about the failed solar firm in CA. Obama not to be trusted with more borrowed money. Trillions of stimulus down the drain already. Best thing Americans can do for our economy is to send Obama’s poll numbers down to the gutter.


5 posted on 09/01/2011 4:51:51 AM PDT by Huck (I don't believe there is just one God--humanity seems like the work of a committee to me.)
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an ill wind blows through this country. The federal ‘family’ in 2009 took Gibson’s property without charges. Valuable property necessary to conduct operations which Gibson now has to sue to get back. Where is the property now?


7 posted on 09/01/2011 4:59:29 AM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: blueyon

I hope he has it recorded. It would make another great ad and help cover the losses by the government shutdown.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 5:00:10 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: blueyon

Bfl.


11 posted on 09/01/2011 5:03:26 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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Is Juszkiewicz Jewish? We know how Muslims feel about the Jewish.


13 posted on 09/01/2011 5:03:56 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: blueyon

Don’t tell us about it, show us the letter.


16 posted on 09/01/2011 5:12:35 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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We know how
You were diverted
You were perverted too
We know how
You were inverted
Some one alerted you
I look at the jobs
And see the work there that’s creeping
While my guitar gently weeps...


19 posted on 09/01/2011 5:19:09 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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The conservative media is being played like a violin by Henry Juszkiewicz.

Gibson's press releases are carefully worded so as to be misleading at best.

Do we all still believe that the government's taken no legal action with respect to the Madagascar ebony raid? I don't. I've been reading the affidavits, pleadings, and exhibits in U.S. v. Ebony Wood in Various Forms, Case No. 3:10 CV 00747, still in the United States District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee, Nashville Division - including Gibson's own answers and motions. (And by the way, Gibson, I don't believe the answer of the German company involved in your purchase of the Madagascar ebony, saying that the government's seizure documents should be thrown out, because they referred to the pieces of ebony in Gibson's factory as "fingerboards," when, according to your cohort, the ebony could have been there to be used for "matchsticks or doorstops.")

And Henry? I've also read the affidavits and other documents involved in the recent raids on your factories in Nashville and Memphis involving East Indian Rosewood.

For the record, Henry, I don't believe the affidavits of government agents as the absolute truth any more than I believe the press release of a financially unstable company that faces economic losses and possible criminal charges for its officers. But when the affidavits give names, flight numbers, dates, street addresses, and contain the emails and interviews with a number of people, they start to become more believable - or at least the kind of things that are more believable than press releases that don't state any backup facts.

I was surprised to learn that the most recent raids started as a result of imports into the 'customs port' (by airline) of Dallas, Texas, involving containers that didn't have the Gibson name on them or any of the identifying paperwork.

Yes, the containers didn't have the Lacey Act paperwork. Yes, when opened, the description on the paperwork didn't match the Indian Rosewood contents inside. Yes, the customs work paperwork left the 'ultimate consignee' blank on some forms, listed a small (10-17 person) company in California on some forms, and on other forms, simply contained instructions to ship the product to another company (a warehouse) in Nashville and to call an employee of the company in California.

Yes, when called to complete the Lacey Act paperwork, the employee of the California firm then 'corrected' the paperwork to show Gibson as the 'ultimate consignee.'

And yes, when the government went to the warehouse in Nashville, they found another shipment of East Indian Rosewood that had come into Canada and been shipped to the warehouse under paperwork listing the California company as the 'ultimate consignee.'

And yes, when the government asked the warehouse company, they produced an email from the California company stating that, for customs purposes, it really wasn't the ultimate consignee, but that Gibson was.

And yes, Gibson has an importer and the government has records showing that Gibson does its own direct importing.

So I assume there was no reason in the world to use all of this subterfuge to get the East Indian Rosewood - incorrect description of contents, listing the ultimate consignee as a company in California but directing shipping to Nashville and/or having that company say it wasn't the ultimate consignee, having shipments come through Canada under the name of another company.

And Henry? I know what an 'ultimate consignee" is. If I'm an import company and I import wood for Gibson, then I'm listed as the importer of record, but Gibson is legally the 'ultimate consignee." I mean, if you want to do it, well, legally.

Henry? I don't trust the Obama DOJ an inch. But it's shame how whatever you say, no matter how incomplete, becomes the gospel truth for conservative bloggers.

23 posted on 09/01/2011 5:30:10 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: blueyon
There is a very simple word to describe what this is:
T R E A S O N

24 posted on 09/01/2011 5:31:37 AM PDT by bvw
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The country of origin explicitly determined Gibson was compliant.

The U.S. gov’t is in no position to determine Gibson was not!


25 posted on 09/01/2011 5:37:37 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: blueyon

ping


27 posted on 09/01/2011 5:45:21 AM PDT by VTenigma
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To: blueyon
Here is a lengthy article with much detail about this travesty by the U.S. Department of Justice (injustice)

Gibson Guitar Wails on Federal Raid Over Wood

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903895904576542942027859286.html

“In a June 4 court filing, Jerry Martin, U.S. Attorney for central Tennessee, quoted the emails, and said “Nix knew that the grey market meant purchasing contraband.” “

Gibson has denied the allegation and said Mr. Nix’s emails were quoted out of context.

Pic of the actual raid is at link-

Federal agents with the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service shut down the Gibson Guitar factory in Memphis Aug. 24 to serve search warrants.

Here is a pre-appointment profile about U.S. Judge Jerry Martin:

http://www.mainjustice.com/2010/03/22/frontrunner-for-nashville-u-s-attorney-surfaces/

Now the questions that come to mind are:

Did Judge Martin have a prior interest in the case (support a competitor)?

Did a Competitor to the guitar maker who was a big Obozo supporter cause the interest in Gibson's wood sources?

Why was Gibson on the Obozo hit list?

This really smells (like everything these leftist slimes do).

The U.S. Attorney who preceded Martin was Ed Yarbrough. During his tenure the first raid appears to have taken place.

http://nashvillepost.com/news/2010/5/7/outgoing_us_attorney_lands_new_gig

I found this quote in that profile interesting.

In 1976, he joined the newly organized firm of Hollins & Wagster, which for two years shared offices with former Watergate prosecutor James F. Neal in Nashville.

29 posted on 09/01/2011 5:49:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: blueyon

Isn’t Madagascar a Muslim country?


36 posted on 09/01/2011 6:09:08 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: blueyon

WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT?


47 posted on 09/01/2011 6:41:26 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Marxism is a global power and wealth redistributionist ideology. Internationalists are Marxists. Marxists hate the freedom, power, wealth and happiness of Americans. They always have to hobble the strong to control the weak.


60 posted on 09/01/2011 8:32:40 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Beck is interviewing the Gibson CEO right now on his show.


61 posted on 09/01/2011 8:41:21 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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This is called “free trade” and the people who have wrecked our economy via this globalist wealth redistribution are called free traitors.


63 posted on 09/01/2011 8:48:44 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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