Posted on 08/26/2011 10:21:29 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
There is some evidence that while waiting for a potential Sarah Palin presidential run, her potential voters have moved on and now support other tea party-backed candidates, such as Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann.
Has Sarah Palin waited too long to announce she’s running for president?
(...) So if she does throw her snow machine helmet into the ring, she might start a White House race closer to the back of the pack than the front.
First, let’s address the waiting part. The former Alaska governor on Tuesday denied that she intends to announce a White House bid on September 3, (...)
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Palin might use the September 3 address to endorse another candidate. She might use it to make it clear she will announce at some point – Governor Perry used that same sort of slow-unveiling strategy as he edged into the race.
But the problem is at this point she may be exhausting the patience of potential Palinites.
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“I think Palin could get back a number of voters should she get into the race – people who gave up on her running and moved on to someone else. But, I do not think it would put her in a strong enough position to get into first or second place,” writes Erickson.
Some other analysts are less negative. In an opinion piece for CNN, political scientist Paul Sracic of Youngstown State University in Ohio writes that Palin’s on-camera optimism about America seems natural and akin to that of GOP icon Ronald Reagan.
“This offers at least the possibility that, despite her current low standing in the polls, she will be able to leap-frog over the more negative sounding Bachmann and Perry, and compete head-to-head with Romney,” writes Sracic.
(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...
I don’t think the debates will determine her in or out. I think his entrance into the race required her to do a little bit more strategerizing. She is sizing him up and will take him out first when she gets in.
Horsesh*t. It ain't that simple. I know most Palin supporters truly believe that Palin's telgraphing her every move to them and that this waiting is all orchestrated to punk the media and the other candidates, but I don't. Her interview with David Brody (see below) tells me very clearly that she hasn't made up her mind yet. I don't think she really wants to run. As she said in that same interview, she wants to be part of the conversation. But she's so dedicated to restoring America that she will run if she believes there's no other choice.
And if your patience is that weak with other consequential things in your life...then I really feel sorry for those around you.
I'm beyond tired of the personal attacks that Palin supporters launch against anyone who doesn't follow their parade. It's horsesh*t. I'll support Palin my own damn way and if others don't like it, well that's just too damn bad. She hasn't announced her candidacy yet.
candidates being personally attacked by the msm (including fox) and the largely irrelevant, faux intelligencia (rove, krauthammer, morris, olberman, matthews, etc) ….candidates being dismissed by the msm…..candidates attacking one another instead of concentrating on the real issues and enemy.
You forgot "candidates being trashed by supporters of other candidates."
For heaven's sake, if you support the Governor and what she would be able to do, then patience.....patience.... Wait for it!
I'll wait until the end of October, which is the deadline she agreed to when David Brody proposed it in the following interview.
Sarah Palin: “There is still a lot of contemplation that goes on within a family, deciding whether to engage in such a life-changing venture, putting yourself forward in the name of service, in such a position as President of the United States. So, we’re still thinking about it, and the impact on family. Family comes first in my life, and I just don’t want to adversely affect the family. So, we’re still talking about it, thinking about it. And that’s what I want supporters to understand. At the same time, I want to be very fair to supporters and not keep them hanging on in perpetuity. It’s fair to them to give them an answer here, in short order, so that they can jump on board with someone else. And/or to decide for themselves what they want to do. So, still haven’t made up my mind, haven’t decided when that announcement would be yet.”Until Sarah does make up her mind, I'll be present on other candidates' threads (as time allows) to make sure that FReepers have balanced information instead of one-sided information, misinformation, or outright erroneous information. Vetting the candidates' records and actions is absolutely necessary, but that's not most of what I see happening. There is some but not enough. Most of what I see is childish, snarky behavior that does nothing to raise the level of discourse. This upcoming election is important. Eating our own based on the hope (belief, desire, impression, etc.) that Sarah will run is self-defeating and divisive and exactly what the left wants.David Brody: “Is that short order by the end of September? October?
Sarah Palin: “I think that that is a fair timeline for people, because Fall time, they can start getting engaged with different campaigns, but still thinking about it, and really, really desiring to be a participant in the positive change that needs to happen in this country. Economy getting back on the right track. Jobs created for Americans, I want to be a part of that whether it be as a candidate, or as a supporter of the right candidate. I’m still in that decision making phase.”
Wow rdb3!
Is that “My Heart Will Go On” from “Titanic” played in reverse?
This thread is about Sarah Palin. If you want to run Perry down, please do so on a Perry thread. Don’t hijack this thread to rant about Perry.
Vetting is important, don't you think?
Vetting is very important...making up shitte to support your demented position is not!
You present a false choice here and I reject your premise. I am not helping Marxist Obama get re-elected, because I am not voting for him. So there's the tired old 'throwing away your vote' canard again.
I prefer Mrs. Palin as my candidate. However,I do notice that you glossed over the point of my second post, where I indicated that there were other candidates who would do just fine for me. So forget about the 'irrational adoration' bit. That dog doesn't hunt.
I won't vote for Romney under any circumstances, and I think a lot of conservatives agree with me. I won't vote for Huntsman either, for the same reason. I like my liberals to admit who they are.
I detest Obama. However, the Republican candidate needs to differ from him in some meaningful way. To vote for a liberal or moderate Republican for President is arguably at least as big a 'throwaway' of a vote -- because it would be a vote against conservative principles. Would you support Huntsman or Romney? I won't, and my conscience will be clear.
I also will vote for the most conservative candidates on the undercard, as they have just as big a role in defeating Marxist Obama as does the candidate for President.
Absolutely! And Austin liberals have had a decade to try and find dirt on Perry. They haven't found much on him --to the dismay of many here who have been forced to grasp at straws and old, out of context quotes in their efforts to bash Governor Perry.
Your assertions would make Sarah a liar when she recently said the following to David Brody in Iowa. Sarah isn't a liar. She says hasn't made a decision yet.
Sarah Palin: “There is still a lot of contemplation that goes on within a family, deciding whether to engage in such a life-changing venture, putting yourself forward in the name of service, in such a position as President of the United States. So, we’re still thinking about it, and the impact on family. Family comes first in my life, and I just don’t want to adversely affect the family. So, we’re still talking about it, thinking about it. And that’s what I want supporters to understand. At the same time, I want to be very fair to supporters and not keep them hanging on in perpetuity. It’s fair to them to give them an answer here, in short order, so that they can jump on board with someone else. And/or to decide for themselves what they want to do. So, still haven’t made up my mind, haven’t decided when that announcement would be yet.”
David Brody: “Is that short order by the end of September? October?
Sarah Palin: “I think that that is a fair timeline for people, because Fall time, they can start getting engaged with different campaigns, but still thinking about it, and really, really desiring to be a participant in the positive change that needs to happen in this country. Economy getting back on the right track. Jobs created for Americans, I want to be a part of that whether it be as a candidate, or as a supporter of the right candidate. I’m still in that decision making phase.”
I believe her too. She has gotten death threats and has children. This is a life changing decision. I don’t think her detractors are thinking about what it could cost her, and her family, to go up against Obama’s marxist machine. He has powerful, silent backers.
Thanks. As I said, I am not attached to any particular candidate and I feel all the infighting between those pushing their favorites is destructive. My goal is to defeat Obama with the most conservative candidate that can actually win.
I think your "cold, hard, facts" right now are more like data points at a specific point in time. They will shift based in large measure due to the emotionalism you decry.
The problem with Palin, as I see it, it that the "time" has already been three years. In polls, she has 99% name recognition which means that opinions have solidified. I know we disagree on how she will do in the future which is why we probably both wish that she would get into the fight so that the winner can be determined and so that we can then focus on fighting Obama instead of fighting ourselves.
At least you aren't part of the crowd doing victory laps after just two weeks out of the gate.
To me, to paraphrase Churchill, Perry is the worst candidate we have except for all the others.
I do not feel cocky about Perry and I will not be confident until the Electoral College declares Obama defeated.
My laundry list of Perry worries:
* He is a politician of long standing. No politician, not even Sarah, is a saint. Something will be dragged up since the liberal media will vet Perry unlike the pass they gave Obama.
* He looks too perfect. I would prefer him with a $12 haircut but that's just me. Yes, this is superficial but voters pay attention to superficial cr@p nowadays.
* Texas fatigue. I wish he were from any other large state so that he did not look or sound like Bush.
* The "Cowboy" image does great in some states and terribly in others. After Bush, "Cowboy" is not a good thing.
* In the Bible Belt, stressing religion is great. Outside the Bible Belt voters get really nervous. I know. I have lived decades in both places.
* He needs to appeal to voters outside the South. Hopefully, his Air Force service exposed him to enough life outside of Texas.
* He needs to be more careful about banging the social issues drum. The public schools have really changed the way that the younger people think. The best way to get conservative social issues addressed is to keep quite during the election and then makes changes after you win. That is the successful strategy that Obama used.
If a candidate with Perry's executive experience and Marco Rubio's conservatism and eloquence showed up tomorrow, I would drop Perry in an instant.
Perry is not a pretty dog, he's smelly, he's mangy and he tried to hump your leg. I know that and I apologize. But, until a better dog appears, Perry is the dog that I truly believe has the best chance rip out the throat of the Obama dog in November 2012.
Exactly. It’s a life-changing decision for her more so than any of the other candidates.
That’s why I tend to discount the theory that this waiting is all some brilliant strategy to punk the media. (Not that Sarah isn’t capable of punking of the media. She does it all the time.)
She simply hasn’t made a decision yet. Fine. She said she will by the end of Sept/Oct. Fine.
I agree with that. I don’t think that she’s playing a game.
Well said.
Yes, I am tattling like a two-year old to the boss. No, I'm not particularly proud of it, but I've already asked you twice.
I think she may have some reluctant family members, and that’s where the hesitation is coming from.
That’s possible. With all the threats and harassment I wouldn’t be anxious to jump back in.
1. I was only able to find the one request.
2. I was not the only person to bring up another candidates name
3. You as a Perry supporter posted an article having a provocative title. I am quite sure your intentions were honorable.
This is complete speculation on my part based on the bits and pieces of interviews I’ve seen from Sarah lately but ...
When Bristol said that her mom had made a decision and that she (Bristol) knew what that decision was and that it would stay at the family table until her mom decided otherwise, I got the distinct impression that the decision was not a yes or no decision. I think Sarah decided not to make a decision until she sees one of two things: 1) a candidate enters the race who she believes has what it takes or 2) no candidates enter the race who have what she believes it takes.
She’s said multiple times that she’d offer herself up in the name of service if she felt it was necessary. My guess is that all this waiting is Sarah assessing the current field of candidates and considering the impact upon her family if she has to run.
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