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Coming soon: Rubio ‘birthers’
The Daily Caller ^ | August 24, 2011 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 08/24/2011 12:34:43 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Despite my hopes, Sen. Marco Rubio will not run for president in 2012. But that doesn’t mean he won’t soon be within a heartbeat of the presidency. As the New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza asked on Twitter: “Is it time to rename GOP primaries ‘the contest to become Marco Rubio’s running mate’?”

Indeed, despite his protestations, Rubio has to be on the short list of potential GOP running mates.

But the downside is that there is already a movement afoot (led by some on the fringe) to disqualify him from serving as president (which would presumably disqualify him from serving as vice president). That’s right — some are arguing that Rubio is not eligible because he is not a “natural born citizen.”

Here’s how the logic works (according to World Net Daily’s Joe Kovacs): “While the Constitution does not define ‘natural-born citizen,’ there is strong evidence that the Founding Fathers understood it to mean someone born of two American citizens.”

Kovacs (and he is not alone) goes on to reason that Rubio’s “eligibility is in doubt” because — though his parents were legal U.S. residents when he was born — they were not yet naturalized citizens.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthers; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; rubio
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1 posted on 08/24/2011 12:34:45 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If Rubio is not a NBC, he won’t be the Veep.


2 posted on 08/24/2011 12:36:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Uh huh. Rubio is an American citizen under the same legal definition that Barack Obama is. The Supreme Court ruled that's good enough, and precedent has been set.

That said, if Democrats want to argue that their black American is more of a *real* American than a Hispanic, then I wish them all the best. I'd love for that debate to run wild and free right before an election. Democrats hate Hispanics, film at 11. Yeah. I'd donate to left wing birthers just to keep that pain alive.

Eat your heart out, Alinsky. I read your book, you magnificent bastard. I read your book. ;-)

3 posted on 08/24/2011 12:39:41 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: arrogantsob

If he can’t be Veep, it shines a VERY BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT on a certain occupier of the White House who is a British subject due to his father’s nationality when he was born.

Run Rubio run! Go for the top!


4 posted on 08/24/2011 12:39:57 PM PDT by null and void (Day 943 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: arrogantsob

Citizen Rubio may not be an NBC’ but thar does NOT nean he is anything but a Good American!

Semper Fidelis, American!


5 posted on 08/24/2011 12:41:12 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“though his parents were legal U.S. residents when he was born — they were not yet naturalized citizens.”

Bingo.

Thereby in-eligible.


6 posted on 08/24/2011 12:42:04 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: arrogantsob

The Supreme Court has declared that the Constitution recognized two, and only two, forms of Citizenship. You are either a naturalized citizen, or you are born with citizenship.

The mythical third type of citizenship, “Natural Born Citizen”, does not exist.

Period.

Here is the link to one of the Supreme Court Decisions, and below is the quote that is relevant:

http://supreme.justia.com/us/169/649/case.html

“The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in the declaration that

“all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,”

contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.”


7 posted on 08/24/2011 12:42:39 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Steel Wolf

“The Supreme Court ruled that’s good enough, and precedent has been set.”

The Supreme Court Has ruled no such thing.

Get your facts straight.


8 posted on 08/24/2011 12:43:44 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Rubio was born in the USA, his parents were not.


9 posted on 08/24/2011 12:43:44 PM PDT by svcw
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If he’s smart, Rubio will let the “birthers” stew for a few months and very publicly prove his eligibility.


10 posted on 08/24/2011 12:43:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Just because the Democrats have twisted and broken the law and trashed the Constitution is no reason why we should do the same.

Rubio is not a natural-born citizen. He is not qualified.

We need to restore the laws that Obama has broken, and make sure nothing like that ever happens again.


11 posted on 08/24/2011 12:44:03 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Rubio is an American citizen under the same legal definition that Barack Obama is.

Not quite. Obama has a better claim than Rubio.

Obama had one citizen parent and one legal resident parent.

Both Rubio's parents were legal residents.

Personally, I'm a jus solis guy, so they're both NBCs in my book.

12 posted on 08/24/2011 12:44:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Pesky things, laws. Best we do away with them, no?


13 posted on 08/24/2011 12:44:29 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It made no difference for zero; why should it matter for Rubio?

All Rubio has to do is claim that his long-form birth certificate is locked up in a vault somewhere in Florida, and then post a PDF of the short-form BC on his Web site.

Works all the time.


15 posted on 08/24/2011 12:45:38 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Look, Rubio is not running and Obama won’t make it to 2012.


16 posted on 08/24/2011 12:47:27 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If it gets rid of the Obamanation, Rubio needs to take one for the team.


17 posted on 08/24/2011 12:48:02 PM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: arrogantsob

He is not a NBC. I think its quite clear dont you?


18 posted on 08/24/2011 12:48:33 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Stand up is hard if you're not funny.)
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To: roaddog727
The Supreme Court Has ruled no such thing. Get your facts straight.

They're quite straight, thank you. The Supreme Court swore Barack Obama into office on January 20th, 2009, based off of his birth in Hawaii, which made him an American citizen. They'll swear in Marco Rubio on January 20th, 2013, based off of his birth in Miami, which made him an American citizen.

Neither one of them is naturalized, they were citizens due to the location of their birth. Ergo, Obama's swearing in set precedence for what was previously a contested legal issue. You may want to split the atom on it, but the Supreme Court won't.

19 posted on 08/24/2011 12:51:04 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“’Natural Born Citizen’, does not exist.”

Except in the Constitution.

Why would the Framers have put that specific term in the Constitution? They set out eligibility requirements for Senator, Representatives and POTUS. Only the last has that phrase inserted in those qualifications.

Those men did not mince words, or insert them unnecessarily into the document that would govern the republic they had so recently suffered so much to achieve.

Maybe you know something the Framers didn’t?


20 posted on 08/24/2011 12:53:22 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S TOO DAMN HIGH)
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