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Christie: Climate change is real
Politico ^ | 8/19/11 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 08/20/2011 6:50:40 AM PDT by Libloather

Christie: Climate change is real
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 8/19/11 9:57 PM EDT

Chris Christie made clear he falls in the Jon Huntsman camp as opposed to the Rick Perry camp on the scientific-political issue of the week in the Republican primary:

In vetoing a bill (S2946) that would have required New Jersey to stay in a regional program intended to curb greenhouse gases — a program Christie plans to leave by the end of the year — the governor said "climate change is real."
He added that "human activity plays a role in these changes" and that climate change is "impacting our state."

**SNIP**

Christie's come full circle on the issue. Last year, he told a town hall audience in Toms River he was skeptical climate change is the result of human activity. He backed off those comments at a conference of environmentalists in May and agreed to meet with climate scientists for a lesson in global warming.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; christie; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; nj; rino; traitor
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To: Libloather

Someone memo this to ChristieIdiot: http://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/gwpf-reports/happer-the_truth_about_greenhouse_gases.pdf


41 posted on 08/20/2011 7:47:39 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Libloather

Yeah, climate change is real. We call them seasons! I live in New England. The climate changes hear everyday. And not using aerosol or rinsing out my tuna cans isn’t going to do a damn thing about it.


42 posted on 08/20/2011 7:47:53 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Libloather; NVDave; CedarDave; B4Ranch; dirtboy; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Humans can change climate on at least a local scale, not by adding carbon dioxide, but by mismanagement of vegetation. Remove the plant cover via poorly managed grazing, catastrophic forest fire, added pavement, and tilling, and surface temperatures will rise while relative humidity falls.

Consider the thermal map of the grass below:

As a real life example, there is solid scientific evidence to suggest that the Sahara Desert was induced by exactly such causes, as a trophic cascade of events that began in the Near East 6,000 years ago subsequent to 9,000 years of continuous nomadic hunting and grazing. At that time, there was a river across the Saudi Peninsula five miles wide. There was a lake above Oman nearly 100 miles across. There are hippopotamus teeth still on the ground. In fact, I think the Hebrew in the old Cain and Abel story chronicles these very events (I've been working on a new translation for about a year).

Desertification happens fast, and when it does, the results can be huge.

The thermal plume of heat adsorbed by that rocky surface extends from Saudi Arabia, all the way to the Caribbean.

Contrast the effect of the central xeric Asian/African surface to the effect South American vegetation exerts. This is independent of the heat concentrations in the centers of the oceanic gyres (circular currents with no sinking mechanism but evaporation).

My hypothesis is that this is REAL anthropogenic climate change, and the policies of the United States government are abetting its equivalent in the American Southwest.

43 posted on 08/20/2011 7:52:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Libloather

Say “goodnight”, Chris.


44 posted on 08/20/2011 7:53:18 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Judith Anne; mickie
"Now I don't have to take him seriously, or even think about him again."

You echo my sentiments exactly.

Christie is in love with the sound of his own voice. He likes to hear himself talk to the media. Many of us figured he'd stick his foot in his mouth sooner or later when his latent liberalism would pop out despite his best efforts.

He didn't disappoint.

Leni

45 posted on 08/20/2011 7:55:14 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman

Ann Coulter only cares that he’s not Palin.

Pray for America


46 posted on 08/20/2011 7:55:41 AM PDT by bray (The Country Club opens in prayers against Palin)
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To: Libloather
He added that "human activity plays a role in these changes"

There's the money quote. He could potentially make a decent department head, I guess. Maybe a spot on the NLRB, until it's disbanded.
47 posted on 08/20/2011 7:56:09 AM PDT by andyk (Income != Wealth)
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To: Libloather

AAAAAND.....we’re done. Thank you and good night, Mr Christie.


48 posted on 08/20/2011 7:58:08 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Libloather

Perry Will Win Big

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/perry_will_win_big.html


49 posted on 08/20/2011 8:02:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Libloather; All
The killer about the whole AGW theory is that it's basically a battering ram to destroy capitalism and the entire American economy, replacing them with international central planning and communism on a scale that could only have been dreamt of by Marx, Engels, and Lenin in their most ecstatic communist wet dreams. Thus, belief in it MUST DISQUALIFY any individual who's attempting to get a pubbie nomination because he shows himself as being no better than the Illegal on the most important issue of our time: freedom v. communism.
50 posted on 08/20/2011 8:02:19 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Libloather

I long ago abandoned any hope of Chris Christie being a conservative that I could support in the 2012 presidential election. This kind of nonsense is one reason why. It’s too bad Ann Coulter decided to support a RINO that has zero chance of winning the Republican presidential nomination.


51 posted on 08/20/2011 8:07:17 AM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Libloather

Another RINO bites the dust. Globull warming and thinking muzzies are great. Two good reason for Christie to stay in New Jersey.


52 posted on 08/20/2011 8:08:06 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: MinuteGal
" Many of us figured he'd stick his foot in his mouth sooner or later when his latent liberalism would pop out despite his best efforts".

Hahaha.......agreed!

54 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:15 AM PDT by mickie
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To: Libloather

Climate Change IS real. 16,000 Years ago, New Jersey was covered by a mile DEEP Glacier.

It melted. Not man’s fault. Period.

When that Glacier decides it wants to come back, are we going to pay people to release CO2 to save New Jersey from being scraped off the map?

Take the fork out of your mouth, Christie and stick it in yourself. You are done.


55 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:41 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Libloather
Christie: Climate change is real

Yes, anyone knows climate change is real. It's just that the doctrine that man is the cause of climate change that can only go in one bad way (well, whichever way is convenient to argue the point) is crap.
56 posted on 08/20/2011 8:15:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Libloather
“Change” in global climate is certainly real.

There have been times in human history, and way way before it, of dramatically different global climate.

There are three real questions.

Is it going up or down?

How much does human activity influence it?

And is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Now when I was very young they were saying it was cooling and it was going to be disastrous and man was most certainly to blame - capitalism especially.

Now they are saying it is warming and it is going to be disastrous and man was most certainly to blame - capitalism especially.

The Medieval warm period seemed to be good times and good wines for all involved - are they growing grapes in England again yet - or is it not yet that warm?

57 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:10 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: MCH

Note from info below that Chris Christie not only believes in global warming (aka AGW / anthropogenic global warming), he stands strongly for government control of our society so as to reduce greenhouse emissions.

From: http://climatecrocks.com/2011/05/27/gop-gov-chris-christie-i-am-running-for-president-in-2016-we-have-an-obligation-to-reduce-our-greenhouse-gas-emissions/

GOP Gov. Chris Christie: “We have an obligation to reduce our Greenhouse Gas emissions.”

May 27, 2011

Excerpts from url above

Surveying the reality-free Tea Party freak show that is the current republican presidential field, Christie has opted out. And he has fired the first shot of his 2016 campaign by committing himself to a program of free-market incentives for combatting climate change, reducing greenhouse emissions, and accelerating New Jersey’s development of renewable energy and conservation.

(snip)

• “..Our commitment continues to combatting climate change, and looking for new, clean, and cleaner energy sources..”

• “ ..we’re committed to putting in place policies that actively work to decrease greenhouse gas emissions, and achieve the 22.5 percent Renewable Portfolio Standard target by 2021..”

(snip)

• “The cleanest energy is the energy that you don’t use… the state has to lead in terms of conservation, and so we’re going to lead by example on energy efficiency.”

• ”we remain completely committed to the idea that we have a responsibility as a state to make the environment of our state, and the world, better..

• “…we have an obligation to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.”

(End of excerpts)

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If you are having a hard time believing Chris Christie would believe in global warming and government control of cities and individuals to reduce greenhouse emissions, see the two videos posted at the link on this post. You’ll be sickened.


58 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:27 AM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: Libloather
Idiot. Liberals aren't going to vote for you no matter what you say about Climate Change. You're only costing yourself votes.

Which, come to think of it, is probably a good thing for America. Christie might be good on the fiscal issues but I have a feeling he'd nominate nothing but Left-Wing Hacks for Judgeships.

59 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:27 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather
well thank you for participating... now stay in Jersey and STFU.

Next RINO please....

real simple litmus test... How do you feel on the global warming scam?

Abortion?

Owning a weapon?

those three things tell you if they believe in life, liberty and the constitution or are quisling, cowardly traitors.

60 posted on 08/20/2011 8:20:32 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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