Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientists

guardian ^ | 8-18-2011 | gouscoc

[edcoil]

It may not rank as the most compelling reason to curb greenhouse gases, but reducing our emissions might just save humanity from a pre-emptive alien attack, scientists claim.

Watching from afar, extraterrestrial beings might view changes in Earth's atmosphere as symptomatic of a civilisation growing out of control – and take drastic action to keep us from becoming a more serious threat, the researchers explain.

[G Larry]

Some “scientists” refuse to acknowledge God, and would rather theorize about aliens....

It avoids those messy concepts of values and purpose.....

[WayneS]

Minor correction: “So long, and thanks for all the fish”.

[SkyDancer]

Independence Day

[6ppc]

It is...

BTW...Already posted (and commented on) yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2765756/posts?page=65#65

[Night Hides Not]

“Klaatu barada nikto”

So Gort's going to make a return trip to Earth to kick our a$$ for global warming.

I hope he makes his first stop in Tennessee to kick algore's.

[apillar]

Watching from afar, extraterrestrial beings might view changes in Earth's atmosphere as symptomatic of a civilization growing out of control – and take drastic action to keep us from becoming a more serious threat, the researchers explain.

Or those good conservative, capitalist aliens might really be saying, if Humanity doesn't get that plague of liberalism under control we must destroy earth to prevent it's taint from spreading into the rest of the galaxy. They learned many millennium ago that liberalism is the greatest threat to galactic prosperity... (Hey my stupid, totally baseless theory is just as valid as their stupid, totally baseless theory)

[ETL]

"It may not rank as the most compelling reason to curb greenhouse gases, but "

Makes more sense than the false notion that man-made CO2 is causing any problems. In any case, if these phonies were truly "green" they would promote CO2 emissions. Plants love the stuff. They can't exist without it. As far as they're concerned, the more the better.

[Java4Jay]

Their report ..

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf

[LRS]

"Our learned minds know we will please the Alien Overlords by charging you with the passing of a greenhouse gas"

[ETL]

THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause [historically -etl]. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

[Andromeda]

Honestly, I can’t stop laughing. Like Anderson Cooper. Only I don’t laugh like a school girl. Now, seriously, how can anyone believe such nonsense, right? I hope the article was just for fun or something, since they posted a snapshot from “Mars attacks!”

[edcoil]

That is the plot in the new version of The Day the Earth Stood Still.

[Yardstick]

This is the left’s version of, “We have offended the gods! They come forth to smite us for our sins!” However, since the left doesn't believe in God, they have to come up with the next best thing, an advanced alien civilization come to smite us for our environmental sins.

This is absolutely true. It's also a big piece of what global warming is about for them -- the Earth as God, smiting us for our sins (especially the sin of capitalism).

[domeika]

This just confirms that these idiots are breathing their last. In a span of less than a week we are hearing that the economy would be fixed quickly if we were attacked by aliens and also now that the reason said aliens would attack would be due to global warming. These people are really reaching now.....have they NO idea how stupid they look?

[ETL]

“There was a ‘Twilight Zone’ episode like this in which scientists fake an alien threat in order to achieve world peace,”

To Serve Man
Series: The Twilight Zone
Writer: Rod Serling, based on the story by Damon Knight
Director: Richard L. Bare

Apparently benign alien emissaries show mankind how to end the misery of war, plague and famine. The Kanamits, nine-foot tall aliens, arrive on Earth with one lofty goal: To Serve Man. They end war, they end famine. They make the military wonder: what's the catch?
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[dfwgator]

In any case, if these phonies were truly "green" they would promote CO2 emissions. Plants love the stuff. They can't exist without it. As far as they're concerned, the more the better.

I thought Plants loved Brawndo....It's got electrolytes! It's what plants crave.

[Dem Guard]

When all else fails, blame aliens from outer space...

[rockrr]

At least Gort was original ;-)

[paterfamilias]

OKAY, ALIENS, COME AND GET ME!

[NativeSon]

I can imagine a peaceful world, a world without weapons and without war. And I can imagine us invading that world, because they’d never expect it. - Jack Handy