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Perry calls idea of U.S.-Mexico border wall ‘ridiculous’
MSNBC ^ | August 17, 2011 | Sarah Blackwill and Domenico Montanaro

Posted on 08/17/2011 10:42:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Perry called the idea of a wall across the entire U.S.-Mexico border “ridiculous” today in a stop in New Hampshire.

“You got strategic fencing in some of the metropolitan areas – it’s very helpful,” the Texas governor said. “But the idea that you’re going to build a wall from Brownsville to El Paso is just -- it’s ridiculous on its face.”

That was in the context of Perry saying how he'd asked Washington for 1,000 National Guard troops and how current efforts at border security are ineffective.

Perry swatted at the Obama administration’s assertion that the “border is safer than it’s ever been.”

“Six week ago, the president went to El Paso and sai the border is safer than it’s ever been,” Perry began. “I have no idea, maybe he was talking about the Canadian border. I will assure you one thing, if I’m president of the United States, the border will be secure.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestyperryyes; border; borderfence; bordersecurity; gorescampaignmanager; illegals; immigrantlist; mexico; obl; openborders; perry; rickperry; rionfreeamerica
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To: shield

Thank you, I was too busy creating graphics to follow it up.


181 posted on 08/17/2011 3:21:31 PM PDT by potlatch (They that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind......)
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To: SUSSA
Many of the illegals leaving Georgia aren’t going back where they belong. They are just going to other states.

Yeah, but whose fault is that?

The "other state's" fault.

If, every time that my dog poops on your lawn, you come out and give me a nice cold glass of lemonade and you give my dog a dog biscuit, guess where my dog is going to be doing his business every day. Not at the lady's house that turns her hose on us. ;-)

See Post 178 for a Mexican's solution to the illegal immigration problem.

182 posted on 08/17/2011 3:25:15 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: Polybius

You’ve even got Sarah saying OH you can’t deport 20 million illegals. No we can’t, she is right. Take away the gravy train...and they’ll leave very quickly. We’d probably not be having problems with SS and medicare if we weren’t supporting all these illegals.


183 posted on 08/17/2011 3:27:02 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry smerry... somebody please cue Sarah Palin that it’s about time to take the stage.


184 posted on 08/17/2011 3:29:23 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Perdogg
Fair enough. But it still will not work.

It has to work better than doing nothing. Border security combined with enforcement of existing laws and an end to sanctuary cities , free education and free medical care will lead to self deportation.

185 posted on 08/17/2011 3:30:22 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: shield
You’ve even got Sarah saying OH you can’t deport 20 million illegals. No we can’t, she is right. Take away the gravy train...and they’ll leave very quickly.

Maybe I can track down that Mexican cabana owner and the U.S. Government can make him the Border Control Czar. He had his head on straight and told it like it was without worrying about Political Correctness. :-)

186 posted on 08/17/2011 3:39:14 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: Polybius

I agree with everything said in that post. But notice “There was no Fence but there was a Mexican Army roadblock manned by Mexican soldiers with M-16’s.” Their army is guarding the border. I would bet the border isn’t 1969 miles long. i would also bet their politicians would not sit back and make excuses if the Guatemalan military crossed the border. Nor do I believe Mexico would fail to use their military if Guatemala printed instructions on how to invade Mexico and passed them out among their least desirable citizens.

We’re never going to put the hose on the mama-jammas who are craping on us by electing presidents who think criminal aliens help the economy and who believe we should reward illegal aliens with tuition discounts and other incentives.

I guarantee that if you give me two heavy infantry divisions, a DMZ, and a fence, I can have the border closed in less than a year and nobody will go over or through my fence. When the invasion is stopped ICE can go after the ones who are here and the people harboring them.

I want a president who is going to use the RICO laws on companies like Tyson Foods who hire illegal aliens as well as using the military and every bit of infrastructure we have or can create to seal the border.

Oh, one more thing. On your trip did you try to cross Mexico’s southern border anywhere other than an official border crossing point? If so I’d like to know how they responded.


187 posted on 08/17/2011 5:03:37 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: potlatch
Build the right fence and staff it well and they will not come.






188 posted on 08/17/2011 5:17:40 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There are plenty of videos of illegals hopping over walls on the Mexican boarder.

We don’t need a wall, mine field or anything to keep illegals out who are just coming here to live and work. All we need to do is cut them off from all social programs.

No schools for their kids, no medical, no food stamps, no housing allotments, no free stuff. No employment. They will head back to Mexico in a heartbeat.
Hold employers responsible to hire only legal immigrants and American citizens.

The walls are no good in and of themselves if they are not watched by people.

We need tougher enforcement of drug traffickers and terrorists though and for that you need more than cutting off social programs. You need armed troops on the boarder.
As we draw down from Afghanistan and Iraq, put these men and women on the boarders until the amount of attempts to cross are cut back. Then we can draw down on the boarder as well.


189 posted on 08/17/2011 5:24:25 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: SUSSA

Yup, you need to tell Obama to send the money to do that. He’s refused to help Perry’s many requests.


190 posted on 08/17/2011 5:31:00 PM PDT by potlatch (They that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind......)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You got strategic fencing in some of the metropolitan areas – it’s very helpful,” the Texas governor said. “But the idea that you’re going to build a wall from Brownsville to El Paso is just — it’s ridiculous on its face.”

What would be ridiculous on its face, Mr. Perry, is if we elected another weak-kneed, open-door policy, stealth amnesty president.

Thanks, but no thanks.


191 posted on 08/17/2011 5:32:27 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: potlatch

I know he did but that’s why we need a president who sees the threat, not one who thinks the fence is dumb and wants to reward the criminals with tuition discounts and other goodies.


192 posted on 08/17/2011 5:42:27 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
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193 posted on 08/17/2011 5:43:16 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: SUSSA

And who do you think is going to do it. One who has governed 25,145,561 for 11 years or one who has no experience at all with the Mexican border and has governed 710,231 for over 2 years?

I want the illegals stopped just as everyone else does, but no one has done it yet and at this point I am more afraid of my country being destroyed by a socialist-communist if elected for 4 more years. Perry has the strength and the backing to win.


194 posted on 08/17/2011 5:53:19 PM PDT by potlatch (They that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind......)
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To: okie01
I accurately outlined the problem as it actually exists on the US-Mexico border in Texas. It's a geographical problem. You got a way to fix it?

Where it's needed, fencing will have to build on the north side of the river. And if that disrupts some ranches and businesses, then the priority has to become the US-Mexico border, not local interests.

Anyone who thinks our border shouldn't be protected because a ranch needs water from the river is a big part of the problem.

What happens in Vegas might stay in Vegas, but what happens on the border definitely does not stay on the border. It spreads like a cancer through all the continental US and maybe beyond.

If enforcing the border is left to border politicians, it will never be enforced. There is more than ample evidence of that already.

195 posted on 08/17/2011 6:00:28 PM PDT by Will88
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To: potlatch

Bachmann is the strongest on the subject. She has a B- from Numbers USA. Perry has a D-.

I doubt that Perry can be nominated given his record. So unless another conservative gets into the race Bachmann is th best hope.

Like Mark Levin said tonight, we don’t need someone who is going to slow things down. We need someone who is going to reverse them.

Carter, Clinton and Bush governed states. Bush governed Texas for eight years. Look what they got us. Until Obama, Bush was the biggest spender since LBJ. He also increased the size and intrusiveness of government. Bush was the most liberal Republican president since Hoover.

Yet, before he was nominated there were people who insisted he was a conservative. They refused to listen to us here in Texas who are active and knew better.

Now, if Jim DeMint jumps in I’ll close my business and work full time to get him nominated and elected.

But given the field as it now stands Bachmann is the best choice by far.


196 posted on 08/17/2011 6:23:41 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

Bachmann just messed up the other day by asking the crowd to celebrate Elvis’ birthday. The crowd remained silently stunned, because it was the date of his death!

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary voters, taken Monday night August 13], finds Perry with 29% support. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who ran unsuccessfully for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, earns 18% of the vote, while Bachmann, the Minnesota congresswoman who won the high-profile Ames Straw Poll in Iowa on Saturday, picks up 13%.

Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who was a close second to Bachmann on Saturday, has the support of nine percent (9%) of Likely Primary Voters, followed by Georgia businessman Herman Cain at six percent (6%) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with five percent (5%). Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, and ex-Utah Governor Jon Huntsman each get one percent (1%) support, while Michigan Congressman Thaddeus McCotter comes in statistically at zero.

Texas did fine under Bush, it was the wars that ate up the money. The information given to Bush that Iraq had WMDs, that every top democrat politician also believed at the time.


197 posted on 08/17/2011 6:35:03 PM PDT by potlatch (The landlord is in place,...... and the lease may soon expire.....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the Israeli’s can fence off the palisimians, we can fence out the Messicans.

The cost of allowing those illegal Messicans, and the rest of the South-Of-The-Border-Bunch to remain in America will pay for that fence STAT!


198 posted on 08/17/2011 6:35:15 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: potlatch

Reagan was behind Daddy Bush until the second debate. After he got the nomination he was behind Carter until the Sunday before the Tuesday election.

I’m sure that people who base their vote on who knows when Elvis’ birthday is are going to vote for Perry or Romney rather than a conservative.

But Perry hasn’t been fully vetted yet. How many people outside of Texas know that he replaced a conservative Supreme Court justice with a self proclaimed moderate?

How many people know about his support for cross border health care with Mexico? There’s much more but it’s all been posted. As the country finds out these things he will fade.

As far as Bush goes, the war didn’t cause Bush to double the size of the Department of Education, or to gut the farm bill Newt passed, or to increase the number of people who pay no taxes, or to push Bushcare, or to nominate Harriet Miers to the Supreme court.

Nor did the war cause him to push the Bush/Kennedy/McCain amnesty bill, or to try to turn over our ports to Arabs.

Shall I continue?


199 posted on 08/17/2011 7:11:43 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

[I’m sure that people who base their vote on who knows when Elvis’ birthday ... ] wasn’t.

Messups seem to count with other candidates.......!

Perry has never lost an election. He served six years in the Texas Legislature, then became Texas agriculture commissioner. He served as lieutenant governor for one year under Gov. George W. Bush, then ascended to the governorship after Bush became president. Perry has since won election as governor in his own right two more times.

Do you not think he has been vetted by now? They will continue to throw the same things at him that is being done here on the forum.

I don’t for a minute believe Perry will ‘fade’ and I’m long past the ‘blame Bush’ stuff.

Have a nice evening.


200 posted on 08/17/2011 7:42:59 PM PDT by potlatch (The landlord is in place,...... and the lease may soon expire.....)
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