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Allen West: Gays Shouldn’t Change Their ‘Choice’ Any More Than I Should Stop Eating Ice Cream
MEDIAITE ^ | 08/12/2011 | Frances Martel

Posted on 08/12/2011 8:04:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Sounds reasonable to me. He's saying that people who choose to be homosexual should have the same basic human rights we all have. He doesn't think they should have any special rights that do not pertain to any others, as many in the homosexual activist community would prefer.

As for same-sex marriage, since marriage isn't a basic human right, it's not something that homosexuals can claim for themselves. There is no RIGHT to marriage; there are all kinds of rules attached to it, based on concepts adopted by civilizations throughout history.

41 posted on 08/12/2011 9:14:11 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: PetroniusMaximus
that's vile

make that inference to his face and you'd become one with the flooring

42 posted on 08/12/2011 9:18:47 AM PDT by tomkat (Sarah '12)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't really care how gay people feel, or how straight people feel, about the subject of homosexuality. I'm more than happy to let people love or hate whatever they want so long as they keep it out of my face.

Invariably, some flamboyant zealot or bible thumper will try and persuade people to get fired up over their point of view. America's supposed to be the land of live and let live, but try saying that to those folks and see what happens. Both sides invariably get more agitated and aggressive, because minding your own business and living quietly and privately in your own beliefs just isn't enough for a lot of people.

The inability to mind our own business is the root of most of America's problems, financial and social.

43 posted on 08/12/2011 9:24:15 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: SuziQ

I agree. Homosexuality by its very definition is a behavior. We need to control the debate by controlling the language.

Homosexual marriage is NOT a civil right, and by legalizing homosexual marriage the state would be legislating that children be intentionally either a mother or a father.


44 posted on 08/12/2011 9:24:27 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy

Correction. . . Intentionally DENIED either a mother or a father.


45 posted on 08/12/2011 9:25:51 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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46 posted on 08/12/2011 9:26:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are some interesting reactions on this thread.

Viewing the video was of some help in analyzing West’s comments.

Being homosexual is not against the law.

In essence, West was asked if he believes those who are not violating the law should “change” a significant aspect of their character. (Sex crimes was not in issue in the context of this exchange, but the trap was set with the reporter’s use of the ambiguous word “behavior”.)

That is not a tough question for a black Ameican who grew up in Atlanta.

West’s response was consistent with what all of us should want from a conservative politician: stay out of our lives unless we are doing something illegal or we invite you in.


47 posted on 08/12/2011 9:27:02 AM PDT by frog in a pot (When will politicians realize the danger of allowing a Marxist to control our capitalist economy?)
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To: rbg81
Lesbians are famous for their ability to turn it “on and off”. So, its really disingenuous to say that once you’re gay, you can’t ever go back.

Heh, like some of the women at Smith College in Northhampton MA. They're LUGs; Lesbians Until Graduation.

48 posted on 08/12/2011 9:28:08 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SeekAndFind

Since he got to congress this guy has crapped on the people who put him there,No money or Vote here.


49 posted on 08/12/2011 9:30:04 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: livius
Actually, he said something that gays hate to hear: that they can change. He said he wasn’t urging it, but he said that it was possible.

Their whole “movement” is based on this being something they are born with, like a genetic defect, but it has been shown time and again that much of the behavior is the result of circumstances around them (a weird family, some event such as being molested as a child, etc.) and can be changed.

Now Now Don't try to bring common-sense and Comprehension into the discussion the natives are busy KNEE-JERKING!

50 posted on 08/12/2011 9:32:31 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Jim Scott

He lives in a state that a super majority passed a constitutional amendment.

What is his position or is he just kow towing for some group? who are his staffers to allow him to duck the marriage issue?


51 posted on 08/12/2011 9:35:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind; wagglebee; little jeremiah; jeremiah; Jim Robinson

Dear LTC West,

This is not about choosing between chocolate chip and vanilla.

This is about choosing between chocolate chip and cyanide.

There’s enough non-reflectiveness going around without your falling into that same cesspool. Gays died anywhere from 2 decades sooner than do non-gays. They are hugely promiscuous reaping for their trouble a host of blood-borne and other pathogens to numerous to list here.

Their choice kills them.

Those who care about them tell them to stop.

Those who hate them tell them to keep doing it.

Those who haven’t thought deeply compare it to vanilla ice cream.


52 posted on 08/12/2011 9:41:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"West is not 100% pro-life. West sees homosexuality as a lifestyle choice, and not necessarily a bad one. West joined the Congressional Black Caucus. West voted against defunding ObamaCare. West voted for the Pigford black farmer reparations. West voted repeatedly to raise the debt ceiling by trillions of dollars. Maybe one or two of those points might be “no big deal” but taken together, they tell me that West is not for me."

Nicely Put,He is from My district and we are continually shocked by these antics,West should NOT get comfortable in DC,The Bonehead easily turned him and that added to the dismay.

53 posted on 08/12/2011 9:53:53 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: SuziQ
SuziQ, what you're saying would be true if there were a context which defined what a "human right" is -- first and foremost, the right to simply go on living. But instead, West provided a context which trivialized sexual decency and derangement to a choice of different ice cream flavors.

So I must disagree with you. I think West has played right into the hands of the perv-activists who portray homosexual behavior as a "human rights issue" (for instance, the gay-advocacy group that calls itself, with suave simplicity, HRC: the "Human Rights Campaign") --- sans definition.

It's not just the gay issue. With any issue you name, we find ourselves in a rhetorical funland in which anything you can assert as a "wanna" turns automatically into a "right."

You name it: anything you want is a right, based on the First and Greatest Commandment, the Law of Wanna.

In this rhetorical context--- here and now--- "human rights" don't center on a right to live secure from murder, assault, fines, imprisonment, confiscation of property or loss of livelihood as retaliation for some harmless private jiggery-pokery. "Human rights" is a phrase twisted to mean "My power to demand that society affirm and subsidize anything I wanna do."

And if West doesn't understand that, he ought to maintain a wise silence until he masters the vector analysis of how "Rights Talk" spins in public.

54 posted on 08/12/2011 10:26:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up." ~ Lily Tomlin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ice cream is not condemned by God. Nor does it transmit Aids. Nor does it disrupt propagation of our species.


55 posted on 08/12/2011 11:12:54 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: commish

It’s a pity. Sometimes I believe we just live to say, “Well, that does it, he’s over for me, kick him down the steps.” It’s usually about a few words often said on the fly (half the time in response to a “when did you stop beating your wife” type of trick question), and virtually always taken out of context or twisted by their reporter or even hearer.

Even if I didn’t like West, I’d think some of these outraged responses here are plain silly.


56 posted on 08/12/2011 11:14:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: SeekAndFind

Christians who feel inclined to homosexuality should, according to the Bible, avoid that behavior. Christians who feel drawn toward adultery should similarly avoid that behavior. As for non-Christians, that’s up to them and their beliefs, and it’s not my place to decide their actions for them . . . however, it’s gross regardless of their faith or lack thereof, and I don’t want to be exposed to any form of sexual immorality. I don’t understand why this has become the center of modern political dialogue - we’re talking about 2% of the population here, a mentally disturbed fringe.


57 posted on 08/12/2011 11:17:31 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: SeekAndFind
“I like chocolate chip ice cream,” he said by way of analogy. “I will continue to like chocolate chip ice cream, there’s no worry about me changing to vanilla.”

What if chocolate chip made your anus bleed? That would be a much more apt analogy.

Politicians like this are too stupid to serve. I just lost 90% of my respect for this guy.
58 posted on 08/12/2011 11:20:51 AM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Comments like this speak volumes. It shows that the Gaystapo is getting to him behind the scenes. And I don’t want a politician whose fundamental principles can be “gotten to.”


59 posted on 08/12/2011 11:31:59 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: ClearCase_guy

A good, solid test for conservatism: Imagine a candidate making the statement in question 15 or 25 years ago. How would his response have been view then?


60 posted on 08/12/2011 11:36:50 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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