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As China launches aircraft carrier, Taiwan presents 'aircraft carrier killer'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 10 Aug 2011

Posted on 08/10/2011 8:51:40 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

As China launches aircraft carrier, Taiwan presents 'aircraft carrier killer'

On the same day China began sea trials of its first aircraft carrier, Taiwan hailed its most advance missile, dubbing it an "aircraft carrier killer".

Taiwan's Hsiung Feng III missile is unveiled against the backdrop of a billboard depicting a missile-riddled aircraft carrier Photo: AP

During the preview for a defence exhibition on Wednesday, Taiwan brandished the indigenous Hsiung Feng III missile against the backdrop of a billboard depicting a missile-riddled aircraft carrier.

The billboard bore the words: "Aircraft carrier killer."

The Hsiung Feng III has made two previous public appearances in Taiwan and has been deployed on Taiwan's Perry-class frigates but has never been described as anti-carrier weapon.

Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949. China still claims Taiwan as its own and vows to bring it back to the fold by force if necessary.

China on Wednesday has embarked on its inaugural sea trial, according to the defence ministry, in a move that is likely crystallise fears of China's rising naval power among its smaller neighbours.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; hf3; navair; taiwan
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1 posted on 08/10/2011 8:51:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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2 posted on 08/10/2011 8:53:34 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
If ever a preemptive strike was needed, it is now.
3 posted on 08/10/2011 9:03:42 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Good stuff.


4 posted on 08/10/2011 9:09:04 AM PDT by corlorde (NH)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It has ram jets, so it would presumably be Mach 2


5 posted on 08/10/2011 9:09:38 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: magslinger; Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; investigateworld; ...
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6 posted on 08/10/2011 9:22:33 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: sukhoi-30mki

If I recall correctly, the Soviets gussied up a lesser model airplane and had it execute a flyover during the Mayday parade. The Allies thought the Soviets had a new plane. This missile may be the same sort of thing. It could just be a model; perhaps while the real thing is under development. The big thing from the Taiwanese standpoint is to deter the Chinese, not to fight them.


7 posted on 08/10/2011 10:16:25 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We should support Taiwan in every way we can.


8 posted on 08/10/2011 10:23:32 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

[ We should support Taiwan in every way we can.]

Yes becasue the US government is selling them out to China.

We need to support them as citizens.


9 posted on 08/10/2011 10:33:39 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks like a copy of the old LTV missile designed for a supersonic antiship bid. Little bit bigger, but identical intake design.


10 posted on 08/10/2011 12:12:17 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: DaxtonBrown; sukhoi-30mki
Those "ram-jets" are most likely bolt-on after market accessories from the local car parts shop.
There is no history, or knowledge at this time, of Taiwan having or doing "ram jet" technology.
11 posted on 08/10/2011 5:35:07 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Taiwan's 'Carrier Killer' Aims To Sink China's Carrier

More info
12 posted on 08/10/2011 5:37:58 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
More Pics of the parade
13 posted on 08/10/2011 5:39:22 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Tainan

It is indeed ramjet powered.


14 posted on 08/10/2011 8:42:10 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Tainan

Those are clearly supersonic ramp intakes. Looking at the tail of the thing, that is one wild hybrid. I don’t see a way to do pop out wings though, so that is confusing.


15 posted on 08/10/2011 9:32:00 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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“The HF-3 missile uses a rocket-ramjet propulsion system, with two side-by-side solid-propellant jettisonable strap-on rocket boosters for initial acceleration and a liquid-fueled ramjet (believed to be using JP-10 fuel) for sustained supersonic cruise. The missile features a wingless design with four strake intakes and four clipped delta control surfaces aft. The air intake design arrangement was reported to have been optimized for evasive maneuvering at terminal sea-skimming altitudes. The missile is designed to be capable of way-pointing and can be programmed to fly offset attack axes to saturate defenses. It is also capable of high-G lateral terminal “random weaving” maneuvers to evade close-in defenses.”>

http://www.peopleforum.cn/viewthread.php?tid=92611&extra=page%3D1


16 posted on 08/10/2011 9:35:50 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Fuel source? Link for verification?

Color me skeptical as usual.
17 posted on 08/10/2011 9:43:26 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Tainan
Your skepticism is unfounded. As i mentioned earlier, LTV and Martin Marrieta both produced rocket booster, ramjet sustainer missiles over twenty years ago for just this mission. I worked on a team with LTV while at Northrop to convert their anti-ship prototype into a supersonic target to be called SLAT. Laid hands on the damn thing, a recovered test shot. Pretty burned up by the heat.

The MM version used a single under-nose intake, the LTV looked just like what the pic shows. Neither had any more control surface than what you see in the pic.

This is old tech, am sure either company would be glad to recoup some of the $$ spent developing those toys by selling to Taiwan. The guidance would be the new stuff, the propulsion old news.

18 posted on 08/10/2011 11:16:11 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki
That's a hoot, the second pic is a Soviet SS-N-22 Sunburn, not the Taiwanese part. Look at the folding control surfaces for tube launchers, and the totally different intakes.

The basic platform and cruciform intake geometry must work well though, that missile had the navy peeing their pants over twenty years ago, wondering how to counter it.

19 posted on 08/10/2011 11:22:24 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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I just received a couple of emails confirming that they are indeed "ram jet" powered.
Always remember:

"Trust...but verify."


remaining skeptically yours,
Tainan
20 posted on 08/11/2011 3:53:17 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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