No, we did not win, but we did better than a lot of people expected and about as much as could reasonably be hoped for given the level of true Conservative power at the federal level.
There is a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth going on, with a lot of people predicting doom — and they may be right — but the reality is that we just do not have enough power now to push through an outright win.
We won’t until after November 2012 — and maybe not even then. If it’s God’s will that we succeed, we will. If not, we will just have to go down fighting.
Do you feel like a ‘winner’ walking out of the out-patient clinic after a colonoscopy?
I’m thinking we’d have to round up the entire GOP population of trolls to find one testicle.
I formally f*rt in their direction and have just changed my affiliation to independent. (No worries, I am still very much a conservative. However, it appears that the Repulsicans are not. Screw ‘em!)
Stupid Republicans made the Democrats look good. The ink is not dry on the deal and Democrats are saying tax increases are on the way.
Captain Obvious where are you?
Only time will tell. More than likely not, based upon previous “deals”. There should be a real indication as Thanksgiving approaches.
Not even close.
I know its tempting to look at how the “other side” reacts to gauge how well you did, but whining liberals does not mean we won. And we lost BIG TIME. Nothing meaningful was cut. The Bush tax cuts will expire.
But the big thing ... the worst thing ... is that (hopefully) unconstitutional Super Congerss that will act in secret like some Star Chamber whose goal is to kill America.
No. We lost, and America lost ... BIT time. And no amount of them making it sound like we won something, changes the facts. That is the reason I read issues from many sources and virtually never watch “news entertainment”. News entertainment, Right, Left or something else, is all propaganda BS. I don’t believe for one second that any of them have our interests at heart. They just want to advance an agenda.
But, I repeat, we conservatives got hosed big time in this debt debacle. They try to give us enough just to keep us around. And mark my words, it’s why they will push Romney on us. Her’s a safe little slave for the powers that be. Oh he’ll nominate someone to keep us Tea Partiers in line, but he will be the MSM darling. Well, at least until after both nominations then they will turn on him and push Obama.
This entire thing is both disgusting and utterly depressing. We MUST have a third party or we are doomed.
One good thing is that at least one of those lying, two- faced, back-room deal cutters hasn’t been crying lately.
Nobody won anything.
The cuts that were made, though they sound impressive when listed, are a drop in the bucket while the spending continues unabated.
The only way out is to inflate our way out of debt (QEIII) or crash ...which are essentially the same thing.
Everyone in Washington knows it. They and the media are in cahoots to hide this as long as possible from citizens (the ones that aren’t bright enough to figure it out on their own).
Demint for Minority Leader in the Senate and anybody other than Boehner for Majority Leader in Congress.
And Bachmann earned my support by standing firm on refusing to raise the debt ceiling.
America lost its soul when they voted for Obama. Greed was not found in corporate America, greed was found in the hearts of every American that voted for the man who was buying their vote.
The GOP is acting like a group of whores. They don't fight to cut spending, they position themselves to control where the spending will take place because they're more concerned about what the New York Times thinks while they nail America's coffin. I'm disgusted.
You know, the media and dems kept saying we had to raise the debt limit because the debt ceiling was supposed to be raised to pay for things we have already bought or spent money on......but all I heard was a shopping list of new programs when the spender-in-chief spoke from the Rose Garden.
Also, I thot the markets were gonna tank IF we DID NOT raise the limit...well they pretty much tanked today. So No, I don’t think we won.
That’s a joke. Right? Government employees just stole trillions of dollars more from all others. Politics! [familyop spits.]
Boehner needs some Viagra..
He got mugged and is so happy he did not get KILLED...
He may have cried.. (privately)..
Big government and parasitism won.
Freedom lost.
No Vaseline, no kiss.....and our wallets have been stolen. Thanks.
I think you’re trying to be a comedian.
If by “won” you mean “sodomized with a rabid ferret” then, yes - we can declare an Epic Victory.
NO!
We got hosed.
We also got hosed back when “We” had the presidency and both houses, so nothing has really changed.
At this point I expect “We the people” will continue to be hosed even if “Republicans/Conservatives” again retake the presidency and both houses.
There were no actual cuts in this deal!
Real cuts need to be made as quickly as the last ten years spending increases in order to amount to anything of substance.
I don’t see that happening without a dramatic and cataclysmic event, such as an open rebellion similar to the “Arab Spring”.
So BOHICA, and learn to enjoy our new status as a third world socialist kleptocracy.
Not that I am bitter or anything. ;-)