Posted on 07/31/2011 7:49:07 PM PDT by Steelers6
President Obama announces agreement Sunday night with GOP and Democratic leaders on a debt-reduction plan compromise that could end a perilous stalemate and avoid a potential default on America's loans
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Can’t believe some think this is simply a matter of our being “Patient”....that’s a passive position which to date has not accomplished a thing for the American people.....Do they think for a second the Democrates are being “patient”...heck no...they are out in full force to continue to win their battles....and they do.
All the cards were in our court....all the Republicans had to do was hold that line....they folded.
This bill must go back to the house—no? If so, freep the slugs mercilessly. It ain’t over ‘til its over. Keep fighting!!
The best deal we can get at this point is no deal. Let’s go for it.
Yep....and I'm still smarting...because our faces just got slapped by the Rebublicans as well.
Somehow people believe this was a "Political victory" for our side....it wasn't...empty promises and words on paper are simply that...no substance which anyone acts on.... meanwhile the administration continues to roll us of every dime possible and tells us it's for our good. That's abuse...and like abused woman who can't call what's happening to them what it is, so too are those who somehow think if we just keep being nice the abuse will stop. It won't.
In my understanding yes, goes to the house. And your right, no bill may very well be better than what's there because it won't be honored anyway. Is there a chance the republicans will say no at this late hour? If they do you can be certain all will blame them for whatever fallout comes...both here and internationally.
I posted this the other day and now it becomes truth.
This “DEAL” ends any shred of hope that I had for the Republican party. It’s time to support a third party and get rid of these GOP lifers.
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As I sit and read about this ongoing fiasco, I simply cant believe that the voters (on both sides) are so utterly stupid (the definition of stupid is doing the same thing time and time again expecting a different result) that they actually BELIEVE the politicians! How utterly stupid!
Almost ALL politicians LIE! Almost ALL people believe them! Its the perfect definition of STUPID!
We were sold down the river by the GOP many months ago. The imaginary crisis we are currently in was devised months ago too. Worse yet, the FIX was agreed upon upon the invention of the crisis and solution thereof. All they had to do is put on a real show of how hard they were fighting the bill and how hard the Dems were fighting to enable the bill.
There was never any doubt that the Republicans would cave in and there was never any doubt that the Democrats would trick them into taking the whole package hook-line-and-sinker. For that is what the Republicans always do: Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and go along to get along.
Just remember the definition of stupid...we will all see it firsthand in the next few days.
I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
Wimpy.
That’s the plan.
Obama was planning to bypass the house on this measure and sign a treaty with some country with the Dim budget in it and kick it to the Senate.
Note well the traitors who vote for it.
The American voters have to decide to start getting that kind of true story on their own.
Let's see...Obama had hardly been in office one year when he happily sent close to 1 trillion down Alice in Wonderland's rabbit hole and called it "stimulus." Took a few weeks to do but ten years to undo? With no accountability whatsoever? "Off with their heads!"
Under the framework, the Joint Committee of Congress will work off a current-law baseline, as required by the 1974 Budget Act, effectively making it impossible for Joint Committee to increase taxes.
http://www.speaker.gov/UploadedFiles/3-7-31-11-Debt-Framework-Boehner.pdf"
This statement needs more evaluation by budget knowledgeable Freepers. I listened to Obama and his everything is on the table rhetoric and I don't understand how working off of a current-law baseline prohibits tax increases.
“Wimpy” being the operant word : )
I hope so
In order to be clear and decisive, please confirm that you include Congressmen Pence, Ryan and West in your definition of RINO.
RINOs! They're everywhere! Purge and destroy!
To be clear, you believe that Congressmen Pence, Ryan and West should "pay dearly" next year?
” They are certainly insane in DC. “
They L I E
The biggest fear of Washington has finally been realized - the electorate has awakened and it is much worse than 1994 because it extends beyond the republican party.
IMHO, the biggest problem is that we are ruled, not governed, by the professional politicians. They are, in turn, ruled by money. Look at what it costs to stay in power these days. BLUF: what other “profession” aids and abets massive over spending to stay at work?
Obama is talking about a Billion ($ 1,000,000,000) dollar reelection. His annual salary is $ 400K, $ 50K expense account, $ 100K travel account, plus $ 19K entertainment - total annual income 569K ($ 569,000). Spread out over 4 years this comes out to slight more than $ 2,000,000. But in his reelection bid Obama is figuring on spending 500 times that.
In 2010, Senator McCain spent over $ 21,000,000 for a job that pays $ 174,000 a year. Spread out over 6 years, his term of office, that's % 1,050,000 - or, 21 times his expected return on expenditures.
How long could John McCain sustain that level of personal spending, given that he is married to a millionairess?
How long could Obama sustain that level of personal personal spending without access to some else’s wallet?
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Then Obama gets pretty much what he wanted.
Cut $0.04 trillion over 1 1/2 years and add 2.4 trillion to the debt. It’s a sweeping plan alright. A plan to get Obama re-elected.
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I’ve never understood this line of thinking. How exactly would a plan to add another $2.4 trillion to our crushing debt with hardly any spending cuts energize a majority of the electorate to re-elect Obama?
Absolutely.
And they need to hear that from us, loud and clear.
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