[Vigilanteman]

We could go on with all 25 cities, but you get the idea. Liberal places are far less safe. Berkeley, in fact, is the only one of the top 5 which is less than twice the national average and the only one which comes close to the two most dangerous of the top 5 conservative cities.

You can explain some of it, but not all of it, by ethnic makeup. But I'm curious as to why Plano, Texas (#5 on the list) has less than one-third the crime rate of the two other Texas cities which made the list.

I'm also curious why the liberal showcase city of Berkeley still has crime rates significantly higher than 3/5th of the most conservative cities in the top 5. The most visible ethnic group in Berkeley is Asian who commit crimes at rates well below the national average.

[Truth is a Weapon]

The evidence is compelling. Regarding your question about Plano. It is a suburb of Dallas and is fairly affluent. It has no significant old part of the town as it just growed. Abilene and Lubbock are old cities with an urban element.

[McKayopectate]

Yeah, it’s a bit of a mind-twist. Is Berkeley higher in crime because being liberals, they love more laws, so no matter what, you’re breaking some kind of law?

[thackney]

But I'm curious as to why Plano, Texas (#5 on the list) has less than one-third the crime rate of the two other Texas cities which made the list.

Some might suggest Texas Tech plays into that...

[Gena Bukin]

You can explain some of it, but not all of it, by ethnic makeup.

Actually, you can explain almost all of it by looking at ethnic makeup, in particular the percentage of African-Americans.

Lots of blacks, lots of crime. Call me racist, I don't care, but it's true. Political ideology has little to do with it except that blacks tend to be concentrated in Democrat strongholds.

You want to live in a safe neighborhood? Break out those census demographics. If the ethnic makeup is greater than 15% African-American, it's probably not the safest place to raise a family. Even Hispanic neighborhoods are safer than black ones.

[triumphant values]

You can explain some of it, but not all of it, by ethnic makeup.

Ok, what part can't you explain?

[houeto]

But I'm curious as to why Plano, Texas (#5 on the list) has less than one-third the crime rate of the two other Texas cities which made the list.

Interesting. I went to Wiki and looked at the demographics for all three. Plano was strikingly different.

[bwc2221]

Comparing Provo and Plano to Detroit and Gary is about as honest as the “See BS” poll on the debt ceiling with a D+11 polling sample.

[Cheetahcat]

Liberals the enemy of any free society,except say Cuba and the like!

[RockinRight]

he tried to dismiss it stating factors other than liberal voting accounted for the high crime rates

There are other factors, but it's even more un-PC to discuss those than it is to discuss the liberalism of those cities.

[Mr. Jeeves]

I'm also curious why the liberal showcase city of Berkeley still has crime rates significantly higher than 3/5th of the most conservative cities in the top 5. The most visible ethnic group in Berkeley is Asian who commit crimes at rates well below the national average.

Berkeley is sandwiched in between Oakland and Richmond. The Amish from those cities love hanging around downtown Berkeley at night, to sample its cultural amenities. :)

[muawiyah]

Provo is a city?

[Ken H]

Madison, WI: (67.72) (57.57) (91.40)

Black population <7%.

[nickcarraway]

Perhaps the towns that neighbor Berkeley could explain that?

[JimRed]

I didn’t think that there were 25 conservative cities left!

[AlanGreenSpam]

While I’d like to agree with your thesis, your data is kind of “cherry-picked” to compare big urban cities like Oakland and Detroit with smaller cities.

A true apples to apples comparison would be more convincing.

[MrB]

Of course, he tried to dismiss it stating factors other than liberal voting accounted for the high crime rates.

Well, obviously, "liberal voting" wouldn't be the CAUSE of high crime rates, and that's not the point. The point is that there is a CORRELATION between people of low character and liberal voting.

Low character causes both crime and liberal voting.

[dragnet2]

Total crime?

That's bunk! Especially if you're concerned with crime.

Crime statistics should be based on crimes per-capita. In other words the number of crimes committed per 100,000 population.

This is done for a good reason.

Would you rather live in city of 1 million that had 300 murders, or a city of 200,000 that had 275 murders?

[dragnet2]

Per capita tells the real story.

Based on the final 2006 FBI Crime Statistics.

Dallas and Berkeley Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

	Dallas, TX	Berkeley, CA	National
Murder:	15	3.9	7
Forcible Rape:	53.28	21.64	32.2
Robbery:	553.9	407.3	205.8
Aggravated Assault:	584.2	202.7	336.5
Burglary:	1734.7	1133.3	813.2
Larceny Theft:	4006.4	5013.2	2601.7
Vehicle Theft:	1116	1057.5	501.5	Based on the final 2006 FBI Crime Statistics.

[N. Theknow]

Notice that of the 5 liberal cities, total crime and violent crime outdo property crime, except for Beserkly.

And the opposite is true for the 5 conservative cities, with the exception of Abilene, where property crime outdoes the other two.

Might one surmise that in the conservative cities and Beserkly, property is actually owned.

While in the other Hell-Holes, assisted living and government housing are the norm?

[YankeeinOkieville]

Your assertion doesn’t hold much water. My city - OKC - capitol of the reddest of the red states has stats that are more than twice the national average in all the categories according to the website you linked to.