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A Restaurant to Ban Kids Under 6 -- Older Customers Complained About Rowdiness
ABC ^ | 7/13/11

Posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:05 AM PDT by markomalley

It hasn't been a banner year for the under-6 set.

Starting July 16, McDain's, a Pittsburgh-area restaurant, will ban children under the age of 6 from its dining area. Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said the policy came in response to complaints he'd received from older customers about kids causing a ruckus. In an email to his clientele, Vuick wrote, "We feel that McDain's is a not a place for young children … and many, many times they have disturbed other customers."

A few weeks ago, Malaysia Airlines announced that it would ban infants from flying in the first-class cabin because other passengers had complained about squalling babies. And last February it was rumored that Virgin Atlantic and British Airways had been pressured to consider child-free zones and even child-free planes to appease business travelers who, according to a travel survey, listed unruly children as their No. 1 travel-related complaint.

So, just when did our precious "pets" become everyone else's pet peeves? Are these bans even legal? Apparently yes. Federal law forbids discrimination on racial or religious grounds, but there is no blanket protection for children. For business owners like Vuick that means they can set the rules.

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Children = precious "pets"???

Interesting choice of words.

1 posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:08 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
A Restaurant to Ban Kids Under 6 -- Older Customers Complained About Rowdiness

As a staunch defender of individual liberty, I'm willing to let the market decide whether this is a good policy.

There are plenty of other restaurants out there.

2 posted on 07/13/2011 7:29:31 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: markomalley

As the mother of more children than 99.9% of the population, I think this is perfectly fine. Freedom of association also means freedom of non-association, and taking little children to restaurants (or on planes) is something to be avoided as much as possible, anyway.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 7:29:52 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: markomalley

Actually, it’s the parents of these unruly children that need to be banned.

Growing up, not that we had many meals out, but whenever we were out in public, we behaved, if we knew what was good for us.

It has become a spare the rod, spoil the child world. Parents now want to be “friends” with their children instead of parents.....or parent, another problem.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 7:30:05 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: markomalley

But accurate in so many cases


5 posted on 07/13/2011 7:30:09 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: markomalley

“Children = precious “pets”??? “

Yeah, that was a weird.

Now, if they start having restaurants that don’t allow cell phones or children under 5, I’ll be there.


6 posted on 07/13/2011 7:30:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: markomalley

Considering how many parents view their kids as pets and allow them to go feral after getting bored with them, I think it is an appropriate word.


7 posted on 07/13/2011 7:30:41 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: markomalley
They'd rather go see Ronald anyway.
8 posted on 07/13/2011 7:30:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: markomalley

I call the little children “pet” sometimes. (I call the dog and the catz “the carnivorous mammals.”) Its original meaning is “something for which you feel affection.” That’s why the writer matched it with “pet peeve,” your favorite or more dearly held gripe about others.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 7:32:04 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: markomalley

While I personally wouldn’t go out of my way to eat in a restaurant that doesn’t allow children under 6, its a choice I could make for myself.

Too bad people in my state aren’t allowed to make the same choice when it comes to smoking.


10 posted on 07/13/2011 7:32:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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McDain’s, Malaysia Airlines and British Airways: doing the job today’s parents won’t do.

I agree with this action. Child raising is rapidly becoming a lost art.

If you children cannot act in a civil manner in public, keep them at home.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 7:32:10 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: markomalley
Doughboy, ocean city, md ... automatically put our party in the childrens' room last summer because we had an 18 month old with us.

We left half a tip since the baby wasn't vetted before being taken to the cheap seats.

And, we let the manager know that we wouldn't be back.

Crappy food anyway...

12 posted on 07/13/2011 7:34:08 AM PDT by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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We were eating recently at a national chain steak house...there was a squalling toddler in a high chair..at least five adults at the table with it. We asked the waitress if they could try to do something....the adults were busy chatting and making NO attempt to make the kid stop screaming
She said the resturant had a policy that they said nothing to customers out of fear of law suits...as a customer if we wished to say something...go right ahead.
We did not go back there.
So hats off to McDains...
Resturants used to have the right to refuse service to anytone.
Freegards
Lex


13 posted on 07/13/2011 7:39:36 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: markomalley

Good for them.

We go to a restaurant here in (M)assachusetts called Sonoma, it’s very upscale and while there is no rule about kids, you would NEVER bring a kid in there in a million years. It’s simply too expensive (and worth it) and upscale to do that. My son is now 14 and we’re going to bring him this weekend for the first time (to celebrate his birthday, our anniversary, and my raise and bonus at work).


14 posted on 07/13/2011 7:41:56 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: markomalley

Parents with babies should keep them safely at home, and out of nice restaurants and airlines.

If they can stop me from enjoying an after dinner smoke, they should keep screaming infants from annoying me.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 7:42:42 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: NoGrayZone

Exactly right. And, when I was a kid, parents wouldn’t allow their screaming child to remain in the restaurant. They would take them outside, away from everyone else, until the crying subsided so as not to interupt everyone else.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 7:42:45 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: markomalley

I completely support a private business doing this. They are trying to create an environment that is pleasant for the customers they are targeting. If one doesn’t like the no child policy, one can always go elsewhere.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 7:42:45 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: markomalley

I can’t recall the whole family going to a restaurant until I was in my teens, and all of us were at least ten. And it was a bad scene, several of us cutting up enough to cause a mini scene. And that was back in the day.

But heck, I always hated going to restaurants as a kid anyway. Same with every other “adult” activity - I just wanted to be out playing with my friends and catching snakes down at the swamp.


18 posted on 07/13/2011 7:43:50 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I would have left without paying.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 7:44:30 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
When my youngest was six, we were at a restaurant with a crying (about) five years old. She got out of her chair walked over and told him “be quite this a restaurant, don't you have restaurant manners”.
His parents howled with laughter when he stopped crying. They asked us if they could treat her to a special desert, we said yes.
Now that she is grown with three of her own, they also have fantastic restaurant manners.
Bad behavior (mostly) stems from bad parents.
20 posted on 07/13/2011 7:44:34 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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