Posted on 07/10/2011 10:31:40 AM PDT by kristinn
I don’t have a ping list, ya loon.
Rabs, you know I think highly of you.
We share a hatred of all things McCain. My issue was the the way he handled the POW/MIA issue in 1992—I got his number early on.
In the last 20 years, McCain has done well for whomever his handlers are, pushing forward some of the most anti-American legislation that could be imagined, all the while hiding behind the war hero cloak he wore like a uniform to deflect criticism every day.
Why anyone would criticize you for NOT voting for McCain is beyond me.
McCain was only a hair below Obama in how bad a President he would be. I voted for Palin in the hope that she could moderate him in some way. We were dealt a crap sandwich on 2008, amnd we cannot afford as a country to be dealt that menu ever again by the GOP. They can go the way of the Whigs for all I care if they try that with Romney et al in 2012.
I know you voted your conscience. At least you VOTED. What the heck happened to many Republicans, moderates and independents that didn’t vote, or who voted for the One?
If Lakeshark and Norm Lenhart are so upset, let them go after those people, not you. You are one person. There were MILLIONS of those people MIA.
Lakeshark and Norm Lenhart—all this insulting needs to just end. We need to close ranks and get behind the best conservative in 2012 or we are all doomed.
One last thing. Rabs did not elect Obama. McCain did. McCain refused to fight, when his whole campaign them was about fighting.
When his VP candidate wanted to fight with all her being, he gave up.
He was nothing but a spoiler, taking a dive for his Communist team, having been turned years ago in North Vietnam. The proof was when he hugged his torturer, the North Vietnamese colonel, when he came to ttestify at the POW/MIA hearings, when he should have decked him on behalf of all the US servicemen that bastard harmed, tortured and killed.
I swallowed my hatred for McCain and pulled the lever for him only because of Palin. That was how I had to rationalize my choice.
At least you Rabs voted your conscience. And I respect you for it.
Tiger’s Eye, you are a voice of reason as usual.
Lakeshark and Norm Lenhart—it’s time to bury the hatchet.
As of this very day, we see the real enemy is not only Obama and the Dems, it is the RINO traitors in the GOP, beginning with Mitch McConnell.
I would rather stand shoulder to shoulder with all of you, and turn to fight these SOBs, than fight each other.
We don’t have that luxury anymore.
That is verbatim what Palin said in her radio ads for McCain. In another, she said McCain was the epitome of the Tea Party movement. Should be 100 years in Purgatory for those two ;-)
Disgusting. Just plain disgusting.
Exit, I’ll be happy to fight the libs with you and anyone else. But Those ‘votes of conscience’ did not go to the lesser of the evils we were presented with and it did help get Obama elected. Paul did not win. And yes the people who sat it out are very much to blame. But that does not change reality. That’s the truth.
That's for darned sure. Anyone who had just pretended to be a conservative and actually fought a campaign could have beaten 0bama. Or Hillary.
Norm, I hope you can see that a “vote of conscience” was an option in 2008 because of the poor choice we were presented with. At least Ron Paul stands for something.
John McCain stood for nothing.
So, I can see where Rabs was coming from. I did not choose that way, but I can respect his choice. He didn’t have to swallow his principles to cast his vote.
I had to.
Norm, I know you and Lakeshark love this country as much as we all do,and you are principled in the same way, in spite of any heated rhetoric.
Today, a gauntlet was thrown down by a lying President and a craven cowardly GOP leader of the Senate.
The enemy is now transparent before us.
We have to close ranks and fight the real enemy now. It is going to be a rough 1.5 years ahead.
Actually it started with me. 13 year old sleeper NL freaked out because I posted (for the 100th time HERE) that McCain would have been worse than Obama. I am NOT talking about their intentions, but their results. You know McCain-Pelosi ?? Just imagine.
He freaked out and started claiming that that opinion proves I am against everything FR stands for (it stands for McCain??? LOL), OHH, and I was in big trouble but he said he 'wouldnt turn me in' his words not kidding . LS pinged me few few times too, I didnt read them closely. I think he doesnt like me :( anymore than rabs. Of course in responding I pinged Rabs because I seem to remember he doesnt like McCain.
In my spare time I had time to post a completely different thread, figured I would do it NOW since NL said my hours are numbered here over my McCain opinions. PSSST : I dont like Romney either , please don't 'turn me in' LOL
Exit, I see it clearly. MCaun was a horrible choice and there were 2 reasons I voted for him Obama and Palin - one to get, one to get rid of. Under no other scenario can I imagine having voted for him and as I stood there i the booth it took everything I had to mark his box.
Paul, I personally think has a lot of good ideas but his foreign policy to me makes him a crazy man. Thats the politest way I can put it. Yes, he stood for something - some I believed, a lot I did not.
McCain stood for nothing - truer words were never spoken. But Palin did (does) and so that Ticket got my vote.
Paul was always far behind M/P in the polls. There was never a chance at any point in the election he would win. That isn’t even arguable. So he was a protest vote, plain and simple. Because people cast that protest vote and/or stayed home altogether, we elected a Marxist who has and continues to dismantle America. I do not think you would dispute the damage he has done domestically or overseas.
Real people like you and I and Lake and Rabs are responsible for the votes we did or did not cast. Those votes or lack of them did in fact determine that Obama would be the President. All the rationalization, discussion, bomb throwing and postmortem analysis will not change that very real truth.
Yes, I get heated and yes I love my country. If I did not, I wouldn’t bother arguing with anyone. And yes I will fight side by side with even SOL and rabs when it comes down to it.
But remember the truth above. Rabs may have stood on principal, but it in a very real way contributed to the damage done to the country we all love. There is just no honest way to get around that.
He is on a site that calls itself “Palin Country by the Founder yet calls we who swallowed our pride and principals for the greater good of America Socialists. Thats me, you and JR. Yes, I take GREAT offense to that. “WE” did our part to NOT elect a Marxist bu supporting Palin.
But if he fights the libs and the Rinos when it counts I’ll be right beside him, despite the damage that his principled stance has in a very real way done to this country. Because I want the country fixed, not further destroyed.
Anyone reading what I posted can see that is not what I said SOL and you know it.
Stick to your convictions as you say. Admit you wish McCain was president now. And ping you-know-who when you do it, as you say. I am sure he will agree with you. 'I wont turn you in' LOL
I hear you, and I see where you are coming from.
BTW, we have the same sign-on date. We’re the old timers here now. Seems like only yesterday we were the noobs.
Really? Thats a trip! Feeling our age huh? ;)
BTW, look at the post immediately above yours. Then go and read what I actually wrote RE SickofLibs and you well see why I get upset, clearly and without any trouble at all ;) I cannot stand a liar.
Once again, compared to Obama, I 1000000000% absolutely DO wish McCain was President right now and given the same options, I would vote the same way.
Problem? Seems hard for you to grasp though I keep saying it.
Just had a look...13 years and we’re both too damn lazy to create an about page LOL!
True--my Freeper Achilles heel.
Obviously, we have bigger fish to fry, but I do admire those with neat pages.
OH BS!
Damage?? The damage that Obama-Pelosi-Reid caused in 2009 is NOTHING compared to what McCain-Pelosi-Reid team would have caused. I have never woke up one day since election day 2008 wishing that McCain won and was POTUS no matter what Obama did.
Obama as POTUS actually rallied Republicans against bailouts, against stimulus spending, against Immigration ‘amnesty’ reform, against cap and trade, against all types of terrible things that RINOs like McCain stood with Democrats for. McCain would have worked with them as POTUS to pass all those things with RINO support(Spanish would be the FIRST option on every automated phone systen now) . POTUS Obama actually got McCain to turn against all the those things he really stood for (McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts too.)
100W light bulbs are banned after this year, the others 40-60 W are banned after next year. That was a Bush-Pelosi energy bill. You think congressional Republicans would have supported Obama in banning light bulbs the past two years? There is NO fing way.
So go ahead, tell me again how Rabs destroyed the country for not voting for Mccain. And how FR stands for McCain.
Well you only been using your account for 5 months (and a busy 5 at that annoying me and spamming 'PDS' in comments.) Your very first comment after creating the account in 1998 was March 22, 2011. So I wouldnt expect you to create a 'about page' of a sleeper account for that first 13 years. What would it say? "Sleeping until .....?" I could fill it in but wont this time.
Trolling rig has several hooks -- enough for all of you, huh?
Wow...amazing.
I don't always agree with sickoflibs, but if I thought he was a troll, I'd ignore him. (That's not why I didn't answer his question, though.) Seems to me he's just asking some straightforward questions and bringing up points about Sarah Palin's potential candidacy. Does that upset you?!
And to save you the trouble of asking...no, I've never voted for Chuck Baldwin.
Actually back on that thread comments he pulled (from a few weeks ago) and reposted here, I was not so much questioning a Palin presidency, but trying to get at determining NL seriousness. All those questions were asking about NL’s beliefs, thoughts and opinions, and they were not telling him what to think. His defensiveness speaks for itself.
Since then I learned that his entire posting history was made the last 5 months, and only the last ~ 3 months involving Palin/PDS which looks like his newbee probation period ended then. After that I didnt need to ask him any questions, That told me what I need to know.
He did get me on the 'troll' label good though....OOOOOO. But he had to go back 17 months to FIND it, funny thing is I have posted about 50 new threads here since then including a number of self written vanities. Where was he the past 17 months (minus the last five) when I was posting threads ??? We can never be sure because he wasnt using the same username,
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.