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Good article with lots of footnotes and links. Some material we already know and some new material.
1 posted on 07/10/2011 6:09:43 AM PDT by libstripper
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Very informative. I was not really “up” on the “Fast and Furious” thing. Thanks.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 6:17:52 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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Bttt.

5.56mm

3 posted on 07/10/2011 6:19:26 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Holder lied. Impeachment (he's impeachable you know) tried.
4 posted on 07/10/2011 6:25:08 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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From the article (found it interesting):

Also, as revealed in our recent reports, there are major stores in Mexico of what Robert Plumlee refers to as, ‘high impact weapons’ which include anti-aircraft guns, rocket propelled grenade launchers and mortars. These weapons are of U.S. origin, they are ample and they include the latest and most deadly, the same high tech weaponry currently deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. While not fully tallied, there are reported sites where thousands and thousands of these weapons exist, along with ‘knock-off’ Mexican army uniforms[11].


5 posted on 07/10/2011 6:28:42 AM PDT by EverOnward
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9 posted on 07/10/2011 6:35:37 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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Frustrating. Operation gunrunner IS NOT the same as Operation Fast and Furious. This administration wants us to consider them synonomous but they were not.


11 posted on 07/10/2011 6:39:22 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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I remember when we had the Mexican President Felipe Calderón lecturing the Congress, he mentioned that Mexico got its illegal weapons from the USA on May 20, 2011. Could this be what he was talking about?


13 posted on 07/10/2011 6:43:26 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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Wasn’t some ball player looking at time for less?


15 posted on 07/10/2011 6:47:29 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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There's a real danger of running down a false trail here.

Fast and Furious and Gunrunner are not the same thing.

17 posted on 07/10/2011 6:50:49 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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I have read this article and others and I am still not able to understand what Gunrunner or Fast and Furious was intended to accomplish. Yes, it they got guns into the hands of the cartels......... then what?


19 posted on 07/10/2011 7:01:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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If stimulus money was used, doesn’t that mean Joe Biden knew about it since he’s in charge of that money?


20 posted on 07/10/2011 7:03:23 AM PDT by moovova (Obama rolled up his sleeves...and cut 2 strokes off his golf score.)
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What do Los Zetas say?

Los Zetas Kingpin: We Bought Guns Directly From U.S. Government

23 posted on 07/10/2011 7:12:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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As others have noted, 'Gunrunner', which Holder was talking about, isn't the same as 'Fast and Furious'. Also, the article is almost incoherent: I get the impression it was written by a True Believer for whom many things are so obvious they don't need to be stated....

Not that I'm defending Holder, who almost certainly knew about 'Gunwalker'. But this isn't the proof that he did, and its fevered tone will only convince the skeptical that his critics are, um, overenthusiastic.

24 posted on 07/10/2011 7:16:08 AM PDT by Grut
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This was a criminal act of gun running by the BATFE, organized by the Obama administration. I have no doubt this was an attempt to get the Mexican drug cartels to use these weapons so that the Obama administration could claim we need to clamp down on “the easy access to guns because they are ending up in crimes.” They already made such public comments during that time to prime the PR pump, only to have it all backfire when it became known this is what they did.

This is an impeachable offense by Obama and many top level government officials need to go to prison.


34 posted on 07/10/2011 7:55:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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Did Holder and the other liberals in the Obama Administration think “Project Gunrunner” was going to nab white middle-class men conservative men? That IS the only group liberal elites and liberal lowlifes traditionally see as ‘the enemy’...


40 posted on 07/10/2011 8:17:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if IÂ’m paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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Getting more traction, that’s good. Although I’m still waiting for this to be on the front page of the Philly Inquirer...../crickets/


41 posted on 07/10/2011 8:19:07 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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This matter requires a Special Prosecutor as soon as possible.
45 posted on 07/10/2011 8:38:06 AM PDT by Rapscallion
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A year or so ago Hillary Clinton brought up that there were assault rifles being found in Mexico that were bought here in the US. It was part of the anti-gun campaign. I wonder what she knew and when did she know it? Hillary may very well be in the know on this.


53 posted on 07/10/2011 8:52:15 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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It is obvious these people care nothing at all about the Constitution. This “fast and furious” was nothing more than a set up to squeeze out emotional “boo hooing” as a means to demonstrate “how bad and evil American gun dealers and owners are”. It is a complete criminal fraud and criminal conspiracy in order to blame “gun running” on us! A means to kill the 2nd amendment—using this “gun running” as an excuse.

So where’s the impeachment proceedings?? When are the prison sentences for Holder, Obama going to be meted out??


56 posted on 07/10/2011 9:17:54 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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President 0bama denying that he or Holder knew anything about Operation Fast and Furious on Mar 23, 2011.

Obama on "gunwalking" - "Serious mistakes" may have been made (video)

Deputy Attorney General David Ogden plainly states that "the President and AG Eric Holder ordered" new facets to Operation Gunrunner. (and describes to a T the facets of Operation Fast and Furious) on March 24th, 2009.

Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious (video)

On June 27, CNSNews.com asked White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, “Could you tell me what is the exact date that the president learned about the Justice Department ATF operation to allow guns to flow into Mexico?”

White House Mum on When Obama Learned of DOJ's Gun-Running Scheme (video)

64 posted on 07/10/2011 11:21:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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