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County Supervisor Proposes 51st State Cut Out of Southern California
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Posted on 07/03/2011 7:45:59 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

County Supervisor Proposes 51st State Cut Out of Southern California

Published July 03, 2011 | FoxNews.com

A Riverside County, Calif., official is reportedly proposing cutting out 13 counties in Southern California and seceding from the rest of the state.

Supervisor Jeff Stone is presenting his proposal to the county's Board of Supervisors on July 12, the Press Enterprise newspaper reports. He is arguing that the recent budget passed by the California Legislature and signed by Gov. Jerry Brown is basically a raid on local budgets to cover profligate spending.

"We have a state Legislature that has gone wild. They just don't care. Their goal was to get a balanced budget so they could continue to get a paycheck," Stone is quoted by the newspaper as saying. "There is only one solution: A serious secession from the liberal arm of the state of California. I know the state of California can do better."

Brown's office scoffed at the idea.

"A secessionist movement? What is this, 1860?" Brown spokesman Gil Duran reportedly said.

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1 posted on 07/03/2011 7:46:02 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

If that happened, I might consider a move to So Cal


2 posted on 07/03/2011 7:50:49 AM PDT by KentuckianaHeadhunter
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To: Sub-Driver

The conservative area of Cal..... Maybe Obummer had the vision to see this happening with his 57 state comment.


3 posted on 07/03/2011 7:53:19 AM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialist States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.I)
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To: Sub-Driver

We hear these kinds of proposals every once in awhile here in California. They go nowhere. Besides, if SoCal divorces from NoCal, it won’t be any more conservative. It will be just a Mexican territory.


4 posted on 07/03/2011 7:57:10 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Sub-Driver

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State;


5 posted on 07/03/2011 7:59:17 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Sub-Driver

Good riddance so long as they include San Francisco


6 posted on 07/03/2011 8:00:44 AM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I live in Tulare County and would love to see this happen. I vote in every election even though I am usually in the minority. It would be wonderful to be able to vote and have it mean something and to live in a State not completely sold out to the public employee unions. Wish it could happen


7 posted on 07/03/2011 8:03:55 AM PDT by DirtyDawg (eat fruit)
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To: ml/nj

You do know you left off the last half of that, right?

They can be created if the legislature of the state agrees.


8 posted on 07/03/2011 8:05:08 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ncfool

The 13 counties this dude is talking about comprise all of Southern California, including Los Angeles County, which dominates the state already during elections. Making SoCal a state would not make it more conservative. And NoCal is already dominated by the Bay area and Sacramento. No conservative gain there either.


9 posted on 07/03/2011 8:06:02 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ml/nj
Why did you leave out the rest of it?

...nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Your quote made it sound like it can't be done, but it clearly can.

10 posted on 07/03/2011 8:09:31 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: Wolfstar

Not LA county. From the article:

The counties included would be Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono, which account for 13 million California residents.


11 posted on 07/03/2011 8:10:51 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (End the "Fiscal Fiasco" in 2012!)
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To: Wolfstar
The proposal does not include Los Angeles county. It would be a conservative state.
12 posted on 07/03/2011 8:10:59 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: Sub-Driver

So what will that do, give us two more Democrat Senators? No thanks.


13 posted on 07/03/2011 8:11:39 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Wrong, it would be a conservative state.


14 posted on 07/03/2011 8:12:55 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: Sub-Driver

Hey! What about us Northern Californians? We want in. Slice a corridor up here. The Libs will never give up the coast so just slice a little umbilical cord up here to Sutter and Colusa Counties.


15 posted on 07/03/2011 8:15:00 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Sub-Driver

They have been talking about this for years and years and years; however they wanted to divide into 3 states; Northern, Central and Southern.


16 posted on 07/03/2011 8:15:27 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ml/nj
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State;

Unless Lincoln is the president and needs another state to add northern votes to assist him in trashing the constitution. Check out West Virginia.

17 posted on 07/03/2011 8:15:56 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Sub-Driver
Interesting.

I've seen articles posted where CA residents in Northern CA wanted to split the state in two. Never anything from the southern part. So this should please everyone.

And, if this gains traction and somehow goes through then we in IL can plan to kick Chicago and Cook County out of IL. As that's the only way we out in what's called the 'Collar Counties' and the rest of IL can get real representation. Chicago & Cook County has so many dam State Senators and Reps that they 'rule' all of Illinois right out of 'City Hall'(1).

Or better yet .... Cook County and Chicago inside it can be annexed by Indiana. The borders adjoin so that would be easy. Then let's see how Chicago l& Cook County likes being run from Indianapolis!

(1)Chicago City Hall and the Cook County Building are both in One Big Building that they share. It's split right down the middle. City Hall is on the West Side facing LaSalle Street and the 'Cook County' part is on the East entered from Clark Street.

18 posted on 07/03/2011 8:17:10 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: Sub-Driver

51st? I thought we already had 57 states...


19 posted on 07/03/2011 8:27:16 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Beelzebubba

Wouldn’t work. The dude is trying to cherry pick counties around L.A. Kind of like the gerrymandering games pols play at redistricting time. Proposal is a none starter, as all these proposals are. Just makes this dude seem either stupid or just not serious.


20 posted on 07/03/2011 8:33:23 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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