Posted on 06/24/2011 8:06:12 PM PDT by PROCON
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Gay marriage will become legal in New York state after the Republican-led state Senate voted to approve it. Advocates are calling it a historic step as New York stands to become the sixth but by far the largest state to legalize same-sex marriage.
Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo lobbied hard for the bill and has promised to sign it.
The Senate vote is viewed as a major gain in an effort to allow gay marriage nationally.
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There are many brainwashed useful idiots out there thanks to our government run education indoctrination system, these are arguments that those who elected the marxist often use when it comes to promoting homosexual sex as equal to heterosexual sex.
Here are my thoughts as to the arguments you encountered...
How does homosexual sex contribute to promoting the marriage institution that society values and has historically always valued? Suggesting that marriage is no longer sacred because of divorce rates so why not let homosexual sex be included as a premise for marriage would be like suggesting that high murder rates imply laws against murder are worthless and murders should be allowed in some cases.
Equating the legitimate discrimination of homosexual sex with slavery or voting rights is absurd unless those who choose to engage in homosexual sex are slaves or do not get to vote simply because they choose to engage in disordered sexual activity. Further, society does not value certain activities and as well legitimately discriminates against such activities for instance in who can donate blood.
Why should something that society has decided and science has proven is self destructive be accorded recognition, privilege, and reward?
The leftists claim it takes a village; however, in the case of homosexual marriage the facts are it would be a dead village after one generation. Promoting homosexual marriage is promoting death plain and simple. Such a death wish may be tolerated in a free society; however, a government that mandates and promotes such a death wish is a government that no longer promotes the common good
Well the mod accused me of actively promoting the homosexual agenda. He deleted the post where he did it, but I have not yet seen an apology or a retraction.
Hell that was the Gospel I’ve been giving them :-}
The humor I saw in your typo was the word play. The Word in fleas? I don’t know, my brain works strangely sometimes. I chuckled because I’m glad God didn’t make that mistake. “Believe in Me, or keep itching!” We’d have a lot of believers. Maybe not true ones, but they wouldn’t backslide!!
Sorry, this may be a bit off color for some, but I think it’s something that God would chuckle about.
“Ol’ devil don’t have nothing on Me when it comes to persuasion!”
How about this:
While I don't support incest, this is the way it should be done, by states voting on it. Or:
While I don't support bestiality, this is the way it should be done, by states voting on it. Or:
While I don't support necrophilia, this is the way it should be done, by states voting on it.
I’m late to the thread but I got several, from I think two different ones.
What mods have told me is to freepmail them the things rather than post them. But for you to be accused of promoting the fag agenda - that’s crazy.
Your morality is different than others, and all the same how you don’t want their morality imposed on you, they don’t want your morality imposed on them.
I thought we were all for limited government here?
Your Pro Homosexual Agenda is supporting the honor of your Sodomite friend/neighbor/relative I suppose.
Happens all the time around here...
“just don’t force me to think it’s normal, or natural; it’s not.”
Agree 100%!!! However, the queers have been successful enough with their twisted agenda that according to a recent survey most of those responding estimated the the number of homosexuals in the USA as 25% of the population, IIRC!
There’s only one morality, real morality. You know, the kind our country was founded upon.
“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
— Edmund Burke
“Reading, reflection and time have convinced me that the interests
of society require the observation of those moral precepts ... in
which all religions agree.” —Thomas Jefferson
Religion and good morals are the only solid foundation of public
liberty and happiness.”
— Samuel Adams (letter to John Trumbull, 16 October 1778)”
Of all the dispositions and habits which least to political
prosperity, Religion and morality are indespensable supports.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should
labor to subvert these great Pilliars of human happiness.
— George Washington (Farewell Address, 19 September 1796)
“[O]ur ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be trusted on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.”
— Daniel Webster, American Jurist and Senator
“[W]hen People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners,
they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign
Invaders.” —Samuel Adams
This forum is being attacked daily by posters who are promoting the homosexual agenda. And when the mods accuse those of us who have been standing in the gap against this agenda and standing up for traditional values of actively promoting the homosexual agenda merely because we post some vile freep mail we got from one of the trolls, is just unacceptable.
I don't know of any rule that prohibits us from posting these unsolicited freep mails from trolls who sign up just to send them. These freep mails are the functional equivalent of the intercepting of enemy correspondence during a war. When you intercept the enemy's correspondence, you don't shred it, you make use of it and you share the information with the troops.
I took great offense at the suggestion that my posting of a pair of freepmails from these trolls meant that I was actively promoting the homosexual agenda. I will not take such an insult to my reputation lightly. I demand a retraction and an apology from the mod.
I guess in the alternative they could ban me. Then they won't have to apologize or retract their insult.
LOL
Just because there are two homosexuals in my family does not mean I support the agenda. That you think that is pretty sad. I’m completely against it in every way, shape and form, and I fully believe it is not in the federal government’s power to declare it legal or not. I do believe it comes down to the states, and then to all religious institutions in the states, as well as any governing body they may have here. Should they want to marry them, why shouldn’t they?
Don’t want to worry about it? Don’t live here, because I have to deal with it daily.
So let them sink under the weight of numerous sexually transmitted diseases, and higher death rates due to aforementioned STDs.
The 10th Amendment is still unchanged from its date of ratification. Was the power to say who may be married given to the federal government?
We all agree that the federal government has been out of bounds for a very, very long time. We as Conservatives also need to accept, albeit obviously that Liberals have differing views on practically everything when compared to us.
Whether gay or not, we all have right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. I have no right to tell my family not to desire people of the same sex, and you as an individual don’t have that right either. However, should you want to propose to your entire state to ban gay marriage, then that is completely within your right because it would be put up to a vote.
Our Founders already fought off a monarchy once before, and made it steadfast in a second war. Where would we be should we accept a monarchy again?
Because why is marrying your adult sister illegal? You can always have an abortion right? Then you must support lesbian sex sisters marrying right? LOL!
I wonder how many years it takes before the state begins forcing ministers and priests to perform homosexual marriages. I only pray that said ministers and priests have more strength than the politicians of NY.
Years? HAH! It will be a matter of weeks. The degenerates have been planning their cluster fraud for years. Now that the degenerate embracing legislators have given them their cover they will leap into the public psyche with their pants down.
It is forbidden in Canada to preach against homosexuality in churches; many pastors are pending court dates as we speak; James Dobson's popular Christian radio talk show "Focus on the Family", is prohibited in Canada from airing their homosexual outreach programs.
Yes, it is indeed a slippery slope!
Welcome to Free Republic!
I’ve already stated that I don’t support the gay agenda. It’s entirely constitutional for a state to vote on the legality of gay marriage. Why did Wisconsin vote against unions? Oh yeah, because of the 10th Amendment, which explicitly says that a state may do so, because the power to regulate unions isn’t solely reserved to the federal government.
That’s the 10th Amendment in action. It’s why Alaska, Arizona and Vermont are unrestricted when it comes to purchasing firearms, while New York and California are may-issue.
It has been decided that the Second Amendment applies to the states as well, but I still can’t buy a firearm in Brooklyn, NY without jumping through hoops, which have since been declared illegal.
Did you also ping Jim Robinson in order for him to see what I’m posting, ie. saying it’s legal for a state to vote on the legality of gay marriage without having to support the gay agenda, in hopes of having him ban me?
The beauty of the Bill of Rights: 1st Amendment to say what you want, 10th Amendment to vote on something without getting the federal government involved, which also works both ways. Get a petition going in your state to ban gay marriage. After all, you have the right to.
I’d like your opinion if you’re willing to offer it, on what I’m saying about the 10th Amendment as it concerns a state’s ability to vote on the legality of gay marriage.
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