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To: wastedyears

There’s only one morality, real morality. You know, the kind our country was founded upon.

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
— Edmund Burke

“Reading, reflection and time have convinced me that the interests
of society require the observation of those moral precepts ... in
which all religions agree.” —Thomas Jefferson

Religion and good morals are the only solid foundation of public
liberty and happiness.”

— Samuel Adams (letter to John Trumbull, 16 October 1778)”

Of all the dispositions and habits which least to political
prosperity, Religion and morality are indespensable supports.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should
labor to subvert these great Pilliars of human happiness.

— George Washington (Farewell Address, 19 September 1796)

“[O]ur ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be trusted on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.”
— Daniel Webster, American Jurist and Senator

“[W]hen People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners,
they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign
Invaders.” —Samuel Adams


391 posted on 06/25/2011 9:43:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

So let them sink under the weight of numerous sexually transmitted diseases, and higher death rates due to aforementioned STDs.

The 10th Amendment is still unchanged from its date of ratification. Was the power to say who may be married given to the federal government?

We all agree that the federal government has been out of bounds for a very, very long time. We as Conservatives also need to accept, albeit obviously that Liberals have differing views on practically everything when compared to us.

Whether gay or not, we all have right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. I have no right to tell my family not to desire people of the same sex, and you as an individual don’t have that right either. However, should you want to propose to your entire state to ban gay marriage, then that is completely within your right because it would be put up to a vote.

Our Founders already fought off a monarchy once before, and made it steadfast in a second war. Where would we be should we accept a monarchy again?


394 posted on 06/25/2011 10:02:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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