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To: balch3
reading the whole article, he sounds very fair and very reasonable....

he thinks that churches should be open to gays and lesbians, period....he doesn't condone it, he calls it a sin....but its a difficult sin and how would God fearing people help those in sin except to open up the church to them.....afterall, God is the answer to our questions, isn't HE?

3 posted on 06/18/2011 12:19:52 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
he thinks that churches should be open to gays and lesbians, period....he doesn't condone it, he calls it a sin....but its a difficult sin and how would God fearing people help those in sin except to open up the church to them.....afterall, God is the answer to our questions, isn't HE?

And how do you think that should be implemented in practice?

At various points in my life I've spent time in Baptist Churches in different regions of the US.

I've never once experienced a situation where any sinner has been made to feel unwelcome.

Oh, the Preachers did preach against Sin in it's many forms, they did not compromise on the matter of Homosexuality being a sin and a choice, but they never posted someone at the door and said do not come in because you are Homosexual.

And immediately after stating that Homosexuality is a Sin, or any other sin, they always pointed the Sinners to Christ.

So once again, if it were you, how should the Baptist church be more inclusive of Homosexuals?
10 posted on 06/18/2011 12:25:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: cherry

Churches should be open to those who repent, and start living their lives according to the scriptures.

Using the term “homophobia” is exactly the wrong word.


13 posted on 06/18/2011 12:27:40 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: cherry
When two or three are together that are born again, then Christ is there also. That is the Church, his body and it is communion. He would not have us partake of communion with darkness.

If they choose not to repent, homosexuals would be doing so to their own harm....because it's living a lie.

God is not the author of confusion...he is only light.

If they repent and come to the light, then communion.

“but its a difficult sin and how would God fearing people help those in sin except to open up the church to them.”

By the hearing of the word. Can a church invite those that are lost into hear this word? Yes.

However, this word would be to those that are lost.

A hearing of the word for those that fear and obey the Lord for the purpose of edification and spiritual revelation should be separate.

If they do not desire the light to reveal their sins, and only desire socialization....that is not what the body of Christ is about.

The Lord will raise preachers and teachers and evangelists, of his own making, to bring the word to them.

The Church is the Lords to sanctify, not to mix good with evil.

38 posted on 06/18/2011 1:53:22 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: cherry
.... he thinks that churches should be open to gays and lesbians, period....he doesn't condone it, he calls it a sin....but its a difficult sin and how would God fearing people help those in sin except to open up the church to them.....afterall, God is the answer to our questions, isn't HE?

That's all well and good but isn't the sinner told to stop the sinning and repent his/her sins and go forth and sin no more?! If the sinners were to do that then I believe they would be accepted and welcome. After all, practicing homosexuality is a sin isn't it?!

41 posted on 06/18/2011 2:06:59 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: cherry

The churches I know are open to repentant homosexuals, just like they’re open to any other repentant sinner, aka Christian.


50 posted on 06/18/2011 3:31:43 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: cherry
My church never turned away a homosexual. I don't know where this guy is coming from. No true church would turn anyone away desiring to find God/Christ. And I don't know of one who has.
57 posted on 06/18/2011 4:11:00 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Banned from the Rush Limbaugh Facebook page on 06/17/2011.)
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To: cherry

The key word is “practice”. Drunkeness is a sin but the church has many attending sober alcoholics who know they can’t touch the stuff. Many church members have been money grubbers afflicted with greed and know if they take their eye off of Jesus, their love of money will consume them. Many have made the error of indulging in adultery but have repented and are attending church. I think the same applies to homosexuals who have embraced Christ and are remaining celebate.

Pedophilia is another issue involving children out of which safety issues arise and since many homosexuals who call themselves such also have committed such sin; the question arises as to whether such persons could ever be fully integrated into a church full of families with children.

The Bible has a process for churches dealing with unrepentant folk within their midsts and it in- volves “releasing them unto Satan” until such time they repent and can be accepted back into fellowship. That’s the hard truth of it and this “official” seems to forgotten that process.


73 posted on 06/18/2011 5:03:35 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Applied Christianity;a study in spiritual fiber optics connecting God's love to man!)
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To: cherry
“God is the answer to our questions, isn't HE?”

By your theory we should let them come in and spread their perverse choosing because we feel sorry for them? Let them repent first before they enter a house of God. n/s

101 posted on 06/18/2011 5:54:41 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: cherry

Homosexuals belong in church.

Just like drunks, liars, swindlers and all the rest of us sinners.


133 posted on 06/18/2011 11:15:04 AM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: cherry

Mohler and his opponents are both half right and both half wrong. All sin—whether it expresses itself as homosexuality or something else—is both something deep within the fallen nature that controls fallen man, and something which fallen man chooses to do and abide by.


142 posted on 06/18/2011 12:45:27 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: cherry

I was there, and you are very naive.

Mohler, for some inexplicable reason, is working with a group that has taken leadership in the SBC and are promoting cultural liberalism. Mohler’s “nuanced” statement, which is actually incoherent, was intended to begin the process of moving the Convention away from taking a clear Biblical stand on the homosexual lifestyle.

Using the language of “homophobia” is not accidental, just as the amnesty resultion’s use of “undocumented workers” was not accidental. The liberal trend is being “justified” as expanded “evangelism”. What it really represents is a desire to maintain membership numbers and cashflow. The result is going to be a war within the SBC leading to a split, a conservative takeover, or a collapse.


184 posted on 06/21/2011 7:35:27 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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