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1 posted on 06/03/2011 7:25:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Is the NPV compact even constitutional?

If (just suppose), Zero were to lose the popular vote next year, but could manage enough electoral votes for re-election; except that California has already signed on to the NPV ... bet your bottom dollar the issue would be going straight to the Supreme Court.


32 posted on 06/03/2011 7:58:22 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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It appears the "elites" in this country think they know better than those that came before them. Fred must want more gigs in Hollyweird.
35 posted on 06/03/2011 8:04:49 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (RINO's are more interested in defeating conservatives than they are in defeating Marxists.)
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I respected Fred once, not any more. I thought he was a Constitutionalist but I guess not. Oh, well.


37 posted on 06/03/2011 8:05:36 PM PDT by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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The Electoral College is there because the States were the sovereign units. A President had to be elected by a majority of the several States’ electors, not by “the people.” By the same token, Senators were to be elected by State legislatures, not “the people.” The only group to be elected directly by popular vote was the House of Representatives.


38 posted on 06/03/2011 8:08:14 PM PDT by hellbender
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Fred never saw a liberal cause he didn’t want to hug.


42 posted on 06/03/2011 8:13:40 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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NEVER and FU fred... I want my damn $2500..00 back that you pissed away... you ass faced turncoat!

LLS


43 posted on 06/03/2011 8:13:48 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If you lie hard enough and sell your soul... you can scam your way to the top" barack obama)
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Fred Thompson is an outstanding example of the damage a stealth RINO can do. He single-handedly deflected interest in any other conservative presidential candidate while he did his insipid fan dance, and then came in too late and too halfheartedly to do anything about McCain.

As far as I am concerned it was a ruse. After Chinagate, I never trusted him.

44 posted on 06/03/2011 8:14:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (If term limits really worked, California would have a responsible legislature.)
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I remember during the Doug Hoffman/Dede Scozzafava battle, a bunch of Fredheads were on FR gloating about what an awesome TRUE CONSERVATIVE LEADER "The Fred" was due to his early Doug Hoffman endorsement, and how he's soooooooo better than ANY other Republican presidential candidate in recent memory when it comes to "federalist principles" (ONLY Fred UNDERSTANDS federalism! Sorta like how "ONLY Ron Paul" UNDERSTANDS the Constitution)

As I noted at the time, Fred deserved due credit for endorsing Hoffman before it was popular to do so, but ONE decent conservative endorsement in his life didn't make Fred into a great conservative role model overall. In fact, the Hoffman endorsement was rather unusual for Fred, in the past he nearly always supported the GOP establishment choice over a conservative underdog in primaries. Let's wait and see if Fred has truly turned over a new leaf, I argued. But Fred's fans would have none of it, laughing about how all the prominent Republicans who got aboard the Hoffman express afterwards were nothing compared to Fred's kick ass conservative leadership.

Fast forward two years later, and where all those Fredheads now? After swearing during the 2008 campaign that Fred's past endorsement of McCain would NEVER happen again cuz Fred's such a principled conservative now, they were pretty silent when he did radios ads promoting McCain over J.D. Hayworth in the 2010 U.S. Senate primary. Sarah Palin got racked over the coals for it on FR, and unlike Fred, she had an excuse for endorsing McCain (the old "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" rule in politics), whereas Fred Thompson owed McCain nothing and was retired, making his endorsement even worse.

Now Fred's working with the left to dismantle the electoral college? Do the Fredheads still think he's soooooooooo much more a consistent, principled conservative than Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, etc.? Fred Thompson was to the right of his pal McCain in the Senate, but the number of degrees to the right can be measured in milimeters. He's certainly better than a RINO, but I think it's time to admire he's no 'southern fried Reagan" as his fanclub continually claimed.

52 posted on 06/03/2011 8:24:15 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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Well, I was a Fredhead.

Dayum.

53 posted on 06/03/2011 8:25:38 PM PDT by Shelayne (We need a Netanyahu! Instead we're stuck with the "yahu".)
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Another bought and paid for senile P.R.I.C.K.


55 posted on 06/03/2011 8:26:03 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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WTF?

What “risk?”

The system works as the Founders intended.

What is it with these idiots that they cannot abide to live under the restrictions of the Constitution?


61 posted on 06/03/2011 8:38:31 PM PDT by NVDave
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Wrong, Fred! Bad decision.

Have another GJack and leave the electoral college alone.


66 posted on 06/03/2011 8:45:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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The correct reform to the Electoral College, in view of the rise of political parties, would be to require all states to adopt the Maine/Nebraska system of apportioning one elector to the winner of the popular vote in each Congressional district, and two electors to the winner of the popular vote state-wide.

It would preserve the Founders intent of diluting popular enthusiasm and giving the states a voice.


67 posted on 06/03/2011 8:56:03 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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NO.

The EC is pure genius.


68 posted on 06/03/2011 8:56:11 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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Here's the real story, buried near the end of the article:

Democrats “are for it because they get votes almost exclusively from major urban areas. The strategy is to eke out victories nationwide that way,” said Mr. Del Beccaro.

Such an approach is also rife for voter fraud, given the recent history of groups like ACORN manufacturing Democratic voters in urban centers, he said.

“Their constituencies are there, and it makes it easier for groups like ACORN to register voters by compliant and noncompliant means,” said Mr. Del Beccaro. “[Democrats] are also pushing for same-day voter registration. If you combine those things, there’s a huge opportunity for fraud.”

69 posted on 06/03/2011 9:00:15 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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Good Grief! Wasn’t Fred a conservative once?


70 posted on 06/03/2011 9:01:29 PM PDT by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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“We’re perpetually kind of rolling the dice in presidential elections in this country and risking electing someone who didn’t get the most votes,” Mr. Thompson said at the event. “It’s an unnecessary risk.”

Go back to full time acting and stick with it, Fred. I guess Fred is unaware that Algore got more votes than W in 2000.

71 posted on 06/03/2011 9:06:07 PM PDT by Will88
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The electoral college is a vital check on our system to prevent massive population area from creating tyranny.

If we go to a straight popular vote system, then New York and LA could dominate the elections.

Candidates could ignore small states or rural areas as statistically insignificant. They would focus on the big states and cities.

It would severely limit the possibility of getting real conservatives getting into the White House.

The Electoral College is the rules of our game to ensure that smaller regions have a say in who leads them.

It would truly be a disaster to eliminate it.

74 posted on 06/03/2011 9:10:25 PM PDT by garjog
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i am truly surprised and saddened to hear this...
75 posted on 06/03/2011 9:15:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Early dementia.


84 posted on 06/03/2011 10:06:55 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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