SOCIAL ISSUES FADE AS REPUBLICANS COURT CONSERVATIVES ZOT!

Reuters ^ | 6/3/11 | Steve Holland

[57 Red States]

Christian conservatives looking to put a Republican in the White House heard a lot about the economy on Friday in a sign that their social issues may take a back seat in 2012.

Many political speakers at the Faith and Freedom Coalition, including Republican White House hopefuls, emphasized jobs, debt and deficits...

In contrast to some previous presidential campaigns, social issues like gay marriage and abortion have not been prominent topics for Republicans hopefuls seeking to replace President Barack Obama in next year's election.

The weakness of the economy has triggered a debate within the Republican Party about whether conservatives should call a "truce" on social questions.

The idea is that Republicans would have a better chance at victory in 2012 if they rally around economic issues....

[Psalm 144]

“[T]heir social issues may take a back seat in 2012.”

When do they not? Meanwhile, the unattended social decay keeps letting the nation rot and slump to the left.

[CIB-173RDABN]

Obama is not Roosevelt.

The economy is going to continue to go down because either by design or incompetence this administration is choosing to do everything that will assure it will go down.

The great experiment in socialism is coming to an end. The whole of western world has been a laboratory for testing the elites ides of utopia. And this ideal of utopia is a failure.

In the 1930s many American did not even know President Roosevelt was confined to a wheelchair, the media hid this fact from the nation. They also hid the true effect his policies were having on the nation. The great depression was made worse by Roosevelt and his policies and only WWII pulled the nation out.

Obama is not Roosevelt and the media is not going to be able to save him.

I will state right now, on the record, that any Republican can and will beat Obama in 2012, regardless of how liberal or how conservative they are.

The American people will be by the end of 2012 sick of this administration.

Of course I also believe it will be better if the Republican candidate is a conservative.

[SoConPubbie]

I am a small "L" libertarian....ferociously pro life and pro liberty....please do not lump the strict constitutionalist in with the wacked out anarchy first capital "L" libertarians....

Good point, and you are correct.

[Servant of the Cross]

"Without God, there is no virtue, because there's no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we're mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." ... Ronald Reagan

"Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free land when some men could decide that others were not fit to be free and should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide. My Administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have any meaning." ... Ronald Reagan

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." ... John Adams

It's Ronald Reagan's Three-Legged Stool of Conservatism ... Stupid.

[Ingtar]

Is maintaining our territorial integrity by enforcing immigration law a “social” issue?

Yes.

[savagesusie]

One other issue.....Postmodernism .....This idea that you can separate parts without regard to the whole is not new....and it is deeply flawed.

You can never separate economics from human nature. (you wouldn’t have economic systems without humans) .

Morality is part of human nature and to ignore it when you are talking about human interactions is folly (and part of cultural Marxists’ way to destroy Western Civilization). Their analysis—to destroy the economics—all you have to do is destroy virtue—to do that you destroy Christianity and the natural family.

Quite easy....destroy responsible, self-sufficiency and family loyalty and safety nets....you completely destroy the system of self-rule. No responsibility for your actions and government has to pick up the slack.

[tacticalogic]

I am a small "L" libertarian....ferociously pro life and pro liberty....please do not lump the strict constitutionalist in with the wacked out anarchy first capital "L" libertarians....

Some of them will anyway. I still remember getting that lecture from some of them back when they were all ga-ga over Rick Warren.

[misterrob]

Your mission statement does not address limited government principles nor fiscal conservatism which is somewhat telling, no? There is very little room around here for people who believe in those principles. You also appear to be cast in the George Bush’s model of conservatism and while that’s your choice it has proven to be an utter failure.

You have become increasingly childish (and as a parent I see the similarities) and petulant in how you deal with people here, some of whom have been posting for years. Tell you what, keep the $50 I sent you in your last beg-a-thon and we will call it even.

Feel free to “zot my account” and call me names on the way out, Jim. You can rant and pose for the suck ups around here who have elevated you to some special status that your ego and pride seem to adore. (And what does the Lord say about that?)

[Brett11]

“Social conservatism” needs to be defined. I’m pro life and against gay marriage, but social conservatism can also be a very anti liberty philosophy if taken to an extreme. For example, why would I care if somebody wants to smoke a joint of marijuana within the privacy of their own home? Or why would I care if somebody wants to gamble their own money away on the internet? It doesn’t affect me in any way.

[LibLieSlayer]

haley barbour must have gone to work for them. There is no way anyone can call themselves a Conservative and support man on man anal sex... abortion... stand against enforcement of our immigration laws and stand for morality in government... for never doubt... these are the things that they mean when they use the code word “Social” Conservatives. You are either a Conservative and believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness or you do not. Life means life... a gift from GOD... and NO MAN has the right to take the lives of the most innocent amongst us.

LLS

[Arrowhead1952]

I didn't expect you to last very long.

[This Just In]

“FR is pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty. Don’t like it, leave. Continue fighting against us on our bedrock principles and you will be shown the door!”

I don’t see anything childish about this statement. It’s straight-forward, terse, and to the point, but not childish.

You’ve been hear long enough to know that Jim won’t tolerate RINO’s or their supporters (if the supporters wish to simply use FR as a campaign platform). I have yet to witness any childishness, except on the part of RINO’s.

Jim’s site, Jim’s rules.

You mentioned our former President Bush’s political platform, but we all know that in politics, you rarely find the ideal candidate/politician. Overall, there has been a general Conservative consistency here at FR.

[Arrowhead1952]

Guess I should have scanned the replies - just pinged you to this ZOT thread.

[Servant of the Cross]

The social cons who wanted to buy off seniors while waging wars with no means to pay form them ...

Your anti-SoCon underwear is showing. It's ludicrous to blame either of these issues on 'SoCons'. Tokyo Rove (no friend of "SoCons") was behind the medicare drug benefit and SoCons don't lead the war drums (although they may support them).

[Darksheare]

Glock rocks wondered about them yesterday.

Glock -a courtesy ping, the guy you sniffed out yesterday bought it today.

[Servant of the Cross]

You are either a Conservative and believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness or you do not.

Exactly. It's all of it (conservatism's 3 legs) or you end up with none of it eventually. Liberaltarians don't get that.

[chesley]

I don’t see any conflict between fiscal conservatism and social conservatism.

Much the other way around, in fact.

If you don’t care so much to provide the shiftless with cash, the criminals with comfortable cells and free education and medical care that law-abiding taxpayers can’t get, countries that hate us with aid, and bringing democracy to countries that only want to die for Allah, well you can save a LOT of money.

And that doesn’t even begin to get into the real social issues.

[glock rocks]

Vey cool... a confirmed IBTZ. Thanks, Darksheare :o)

[Darksheare]

Welcome!
24 hour lag time, but you were still IB4TZ.

[LibLieSlayer]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS