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U.S. Murder Toll From Guns Highest in Big Cities: CDC
HealthDay News ^ | May 12, 2011 | Steven Reinberg

Posted on 05/22/2011 11:32:07 AM PDT by neverdem

Large metropolitan areas suffer about two-thirds of all firearm homicides in the United States, with inner cities most affected, according to a new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"The central cities really bear the burden of firearm homicides," said Linda L. Dahlberg, the associate director for science in CDC's Division of Violence Prevention, noting that the gun murder rate was highest among male children and teens.

These findings "speak to the importance of addressing youth if we really want to do something about the gun violence problem," Dahlberg said.

According to the CDC, 25,423 murders by gunfire took place in the United States in 2006 through 2007 -- the years of the most recent available statistics.

Among these deaths, the rate of firearm homicides was higher in inner cities than in other parts of cities and higher than the murder rate of the country as a whole, Dahlberg said. People living in 50 of the largest cities, in fact, accounted for 67% of all firearm homicides.

In addition, children and teens aged 10 to 19 in these areas -- more than 85% of them male -- accounted for 73 % of all firearm homicides, Dahlberg noted.

In the United States, "gun violence escalated in the late 1980s and 1990s, fueled in part by the crack cocaine epidemic," Dahlberg said. "Even though the rates have declined since 1994, the proportion of youth homicides that are committed with firearms has remained consistently high."

To reduce the carnage, the country needs to teach young people ways to resolve conflicts without violence, according to the CDC.

The findings were published in the May 13 issue of CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

For the study, researchers used data from the National Vital Statistics System and the U.S. Census Bureau to calculate gun murders in the 50 largest U.S. cities for 2006-2007.

The researchers found regional differences in the rates of firearm homicides rates, which tended to be higher in cities in the Midwest and South than in the Northeast and West.

Dahlberg noted that research shows that youth violence is preventable -- with effort. "Programs that build skills in resolving conflicts without resorting to violence have resulted in reductions in youth violence," she said.

Parenting and mentoring programs can also have a strong impact. So can community-wide programs that focus on neighborhoods trying to change the physical and social environment, Dahlberg added. "Neighborhood interventions have resulted in significant reductions in crime and violence," she said.

There are also programs like "Cease Fire" that focus on preventing shooting and try to work with many people in the community, including hospitals and community outreach groups, to help defuse violence and "change the community norms around violence," Dahlberg said.

The report also included information on gun suicides -- which, unlike murders, are least common in cities.

Cities accounted for only 39% of firearm suicides, Dahlberg pointed out. "Gun suicides were lower in urban areas than in the nation overall," she said. "And, the central cities had rates below other metropolitan areas."

Daniel Webster, professor and co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore, isn't surprised that most firearm murders occur in inner cities.

"One of the strongest correlates for homicide is 'concentrated disadvantaged,' where everyone living in an area is poor and unemployed," he said. "There are a lot of sociological factors at play here that make some urban communities at high risk for youth and gun violence," he explained.

Webster's strategy for reducing gun murders by teens is making guns harder to get. That means cracking down on people who sell guns, especially those who sell guns to teens.

In addition, police can crack down on people who illegally carry guns, particularly in inner cities. "Special units -- whose principal task is to identify individuals who illegally carry guns and arrest them and get the guns off the streets -- appear to work to reduce gun violence," Webster said.

Also, community programs like "Cease Fire" can have a significant effect in reducing gun violence, he added.

Gary Kleck, the David J. Bordua Professor of Criminology at Florida State University in Tallahassee, has another take on how to reduce inner-city gun violence.

The evidence suggests that better gun control doesn't necessarily reduce violence, but a broad-based approach tends to reduce homicide in general, he said.

For one thing, "locking up more criminals reduces violence; it's not gun specific," he said. There are treatment programs that can help, he added. "They basically teach offenders how to think differently when [they] face a violent situation," Kleck said.

In addition, job training can help in getting people not to commit crimes or violence, Kleck said.

Copyright © 2011 HealthDay. All rights reserved.

SOURCES: Linda L. Dahlberg, Ph.D., associate director for science, violence prevention division, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Daniel Webster, Sc.D., M.P.H., professor and co-director, Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, Baltimore; Gary Kleck, Ph.D., David J. Bordua Professor of Criminology, Florida State University, Tallahassee, Fla.; May 13, 2011, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report


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To: Georgia Girl 2; JohnRLott; Doe Eyes
The demographics were published long ago in "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott. Doe Eyes found an excellent demographic map for Baltimore. The weasel politicians can't/won't acknowledge the problem, so they resort to inflicting gun control on the whole population. The same spineless approach that has TSA patting down frail senior citizens and infants in diapers while showing deference to Middle Eastern males in the 18 to 25 age range for fear of offending them.
41 posted on 05/22/2011 1:34:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: reg45
Perhaps, instead of banning firearms, we should consider banning big cities.

Force all that garbage out to where normal people live?

No thank you. Let them stay there and duke it out among themselves.

42 posted on 05/22/2011 1:51:32 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: neverdem

Would it be cynical of me to wonder how many of my tax dollars went into producing this study?


43 posted on 05/22/2011 1:57:56 PM PDT by SES1066 (Michael Moore - a pernicious progluddite of socialism!)
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To: neverdem

View gun statistics like this with a jaundiced eye. In the past anti-firearm agenda have included suicides in “gun violence” statics, Called gang bangers “children,” etc. Figures don’t lie, But agenda driven democrats do....


44 posted on 05/22/2011 2:00:43 PM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: neverdem
Large metropolitan areas suffer about two-thirds of all firearm homicides in the United States, with inner cities most affected...

No Sh&T Sherlock.

45 posted on 05/22/2011 2:04:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
And that right there is your Moron of the Day. I was reading this article with baited breath, waiting for the line that discussed gun control and how gun control is the most strict exactly in these cities where violence and murder are the worst. To any intelligent being, that right there shows NO CORRELATION WHATSOEVER between laws and violence. Good people will be peaceful with or without either laws or guns. Evil people will violate all laws and kill with guns.

You nailed it!

46 posted on 05/22/2011 2:07:33 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: neverdem

Pity they didn’t link to the FBI’s UCR where homicides are broken down by race/ethnicity as well as sex and age and instrumentality. >PS


47 posted on 05/22/2011 2:20:26 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: EGPWS
One need only look at the homicide statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice, select “by race of perpetrator” and the essence of the problem kinda just sits there staring you in the face. The last time I looked at a time-series of this data, when you looked at the young black male homicide rate (by race of perpetrator) it was slightly more than 8x that of non-black, non-asians (i.e. all Caucasians) of the same age range.
48 posted on 05/22/2011 2:33:01 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: EGPWS
One need only look at the homicide statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice, select “by race of perpetrator” and the essence of the problem kinda just sits there staring you in the face. The last time I looked at a time-series of this data, when you looked at the young black male homicide rate (by race of perpetrator) it was slightly more than 8x that of non-black, non-asians (i.e. all Caucasians) of the same age range.
49 posted on 05/22/2011 2:33:16 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: neverdem
There is an inconvenient demographic and political component to this study.
50 posted on 05/22/2011 2:37:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Sooth2222
Very telling map. The tax eaters finally outvoted the tax payers.
51 posted on 05/22/2011 2:40:55 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Here are examples that make your point. The following figures are from city-data.com. The murder rate is for 2009. Note that El Paso is 80% hispanic and is one of the safest cities in the US.

WashDC murder rate 23.8/100,000; black pop. 52.8%

Philadelphia murder 19.5/100,000 black pop. 41.5%

New York murder rate 5.6/100,000; black pop. 23%

San Jose murder rate 2.9/100,000; black pop. 2.6%; hispanic 32.6%

El Paso murder rate 1.9/100,000; black pop. 2.6% hispanic 80.5%

52 posted on 05/22/2011 2:48:39 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: rickomatic

NYC’s murder rate, regardless of technique, is far far lower than other cities. In all cities, most of the crimes are by gunshot.


53 posted on 05/22/2011 2:58:04 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: neverdem

Here is some of their advice, based on common situations.

1) Somebody be sellin’ crack on your street corner. Instead of capping him, politely ask him to leave.

2) Somebody be flashin’ the wrong gang signs in your ‘hood. Instead of immediately blasting away with two pistols in their general direction, assume that they are lost and offer to provide them directions to return home.

3) Disagreements have escalated to the point where a major gunfight is anticipated. Instead, offer to have a break dancing and rap contest to establish who is the most artistically gifted. The loser buys soda for all. Then bonds of friendship can be established at a midnight basketball game.

4) MS-13 has moved into your hood and has issued a racially charged challenge to the existing status quo. Assure them that despite your differences, blacks and Hispanics may form cooperative ventures in an atmosphere of mutual respect and consideration, and that there is no need for them to behave in a hostile manner.

5) Always remember that the government is here to help you with more useful advice in conflict avoidance, during regular office hours, M-F, 9am to 3pm. Leave a voice mail if we’re not in the office, and we’ll get back to you as soon as possible.


54 posted on 05/22/2011 3:00:48 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: neverdem
Let me guess they want to continue the Insanity of trying to protect the law-abiding by disarming them instead of addressing the real issue – Crime!

BTW, It’s time we had SWORD control!

POLICE: Louisville woman pulls sword at Pizza Hut

http://www.fox41.com/story/14683962/police-louisville-woman-pulls-sword-at-pizza-hut

After, it’s not like you can’t make a knife with just a piece of metal or plastic and a way to sharpen an edge. /sarc.

55 posted on 05/22/2011 3:04:04 PM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: NativeNewYorker; EGPWS; hflynn; reg45; Red_Devil 232; ozzymandus; TexasRedeye; Myrddin; Vaquero; ...
This was the only citation for Gary Kleck, a well known criminologist who believes most gun control efforts are useless after first believing in gun control, IIRC, at Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. I assumed the prior link was the source for for the May 13, 2011 story that I posted. I thought it was related to the following story:

The Myth of Big-Time Gun Trafficking, also by Gary Kleck which I thought might have been related to the Gun Walker scandal, but my computer is crapping out at the Wall SStreet Journal.

Duh, I guess it's time to check the date instead of assuming it's the correct citation, even when there's only one citation.

P.S. They hint at the demographics involved by using the term "inner city." They don't mean Caucasians, Asians or Amerindians, so you're left with Blacks and Latinos.

56 posted on 05/22/2011 3:50:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Doe Eyes
Map for white & over 50 folks
57 posted on 05/22/2011 4:02:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

You have to zoom out to see the whole city because THERE IS ONLY 1.


58 posted on 05/22/2011 4:04:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Myrddin

Right on target, FRiend!


59 posted on 05/22/2011 4:36:38 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: null and void

“News flash!-More people die where there are more people!”
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That’s my take on it too.
More fatal car crashes in cities.
More death from heart attacks in cities.
etc. etc.
How much tax money did the CDC spend to come up with this?


60 posted on 05/22/2011 4:41:05 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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