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A weighty issue: Mother and daughter told they're 'too fat to fly' on Southwest airlines flight
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 12, 2011

Posted on 05/12/2011 11:55:20 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

After losing 120lbs flying has become less of a big issue for one woman.

But Kenlie Tiggeman, from Galliano, Louisiana, was cruelly reminded of her battle to lose weight this Easter when Southwest airlines said she and her mother were 'too fat to fly.'

Miss Tiggeman, a political strategist, and her mother Joan Charpentier, were on a stop-over in Dallas when they were singled out by an official in front of some 100 other passengers because of their size.

Another larger lady due on the same flight had also been targeted

'I asked him what the weight restrictions were and he said that he didn't know, just that we were too heavy to fly. Too fat to fly,' Miss Tiggeman told WDSU News.

The airline's 'customers of size' policy states passengers have to purchase a second seat if they cannot fit between the armrests, which are 17-inches across. However customers may be able to claim the money back if the flight isn't sold out.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: obesity; southwestairlines
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To: svcw
I think it's a European thing. A daily bath doesn't seem to be the norm in Europe. You could hide a dime under a bar of soap and have no fear that it would be discovered.

As you observed, it's more of a "training" issue.

141 posted on 05/12/2011 3:32:18 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: faucetman

Hey, don’t let it get you down. Being seated next to someone who slops over into your space does seem to bring out the hate in people.

I’ve read these threads before and it’s interesting.

I have absolutely no disagreement with the policy but the ticket agents should take a course in how to handle these situations. My daughter is an HR manager and they do sexual harassment courses all the time.

The agent should ask to speak to the person privately and there should be a private place for the seriously overweight individual to sit in a prototype airplane seat. It should be quickly obvious if an extra ticket is necessary.

Perhaps a conversation ahead of time when you plan to fly would let you know your options and prevent the danger of being bounced.


142 posted on 05/12/2011 3:34:24 PM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan 2012)
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To: RWGinger

Practical advise (learned the hard way) for very small people flying Southwest.

Resist the temptation to take a seat in an unoccupied row. The fatties will make a bee line to sit next to you. Go ahead and take a seat by normal sized people and be safe.


143 posted on 05/12/2011 3:38:28 PM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan 2012)
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To: Sloth

What a great design!
Do you know who is using that seat configuration now?


144 posted on 05/12/2011 3:43:09 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: altura

Excellent Strategy!


145 posted on 05/12/2011 4:03:46 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Beelzebubba
Seen one too many of those "girley-boys" myself!

BTW I was on a substitute flight (agents in Atlanta just wouldn't move to assure me of getting on my flight out so was forced to go through Memphis). While waiting for the flight (again, Memphis) I noted that the time was nearing to be boarding the flight that had arrived some 45 min. before. Agent at the stand said that our "crew" had landed on another flight across the terminal and were running a bit late. Another 35 min. and a number of us were giving agent a bit of trouble as flight was now almost 55 min. late, agent, clearly purplexed, paged flight crew. Nothing, finally a crew of three neared our area laughing and carrying on while one woman from their group approached agent saying something under her breath (at least not loud enough so those near could hear a word,) then turned on her heels to the rest of the "crew" and they all left.

Agent told us all that "another flight crew" would be sent to service our flight to my destination.

When this "crew" showed up, FA in charge (yes another "girley-boy" with an attitude like he had his thong giving him trouble, snapped at us and as we were entering the plain, told us to "hurry up." We let him know that we'd waited a long time to be in a "hurry (flight was now over 2 hours late.)

He refused to service plane, told every one to stay buckled up for entire flight (no weather trouble around) and practically attacked an elderly man who needed to use the john!

146 posted on 05/12/2011 4:07:56 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: altura

I am guessing that most people make their reservations and buy their tickets on line or at least by phone. Airlines should decide on a policy for over weight and simply large people and put it out there ahead of time. When an overweight person shows up at the airport they should already know that they will be asked to buy another seat. No one should be embarrassed in front of other passengers but they should not be surprised at the regulation either. They could be asked on line about their size and if they are wider than 17” or whatever it is, it could be settled right there.


147 posted on 05/12/2011 4:15:41 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: brytlea

RE: Perhaps what they need is something like they have for carry on. If your rear end can fit in this box..

Absolutely brilliant!!! :-)


148 posted on 05/12/2011 4:19:52 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: oldsalt
I must say, I have not noticed the people in First being bigger than Coach. Really. In fact, my observation is just the opposite. Could be more people fly Coach and therefore more obese people can be noticed.

Most fliers in First are business travelers and have no use for the chattering occasional flyer, small seats and rude stewardesses. Not that stewardesses are that much nicer in First, they aren't, but they are nominally better.

What I like in First is (usually) no children, especially the noisy 2-yrs old brats that love to scream and yell.

Oh, and I especially like being handed a steel knife and steel fork with my meal. See, I don't have to try and smuggle weapons through TSA, the airlines issue me a weapon.

149 posted on 05/12/2011 4:28:12 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Lancey Howard
They’re just big-boned.

I'd certainly hope so. If their bones weren't so big, they'd snap like a twig under the load of all that weight.

150 posted on 05/12/2011 4:28:34 PM PDT by Bob
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To: jesseam

Can you imagine the outcry if they institute the buttbox?


151 posted on 05/12/2011 4:30:57 PM PDT by brytlea (Trying to think of something worth the waste of a keystroke...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

My biggest problem is the seat in front of me that reclines too far back so you can’t even read a book or enjoy your beverage and pack of peanuts. ;-(


152 posted on 05/12/2011 4:31:31 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Beelzebubba
Interesting observation, but no, I think the 20% increase in fares will result in less passengers, less stress, better service, less screaming brats and nasty, self-centered ghetto pants-down below their butt me-me-me Coach travelers. Greyhound will see a surge in their ridership.

I think a 20% increase is a good thing. . .I would pay 20% more to ensure a less crowded jet. . .but then again, (not bragging), I only fly First because I refuse to be squeezed between the obnoxious and the smelly travelers that don't know, or respect, the unwritten rules of flying. See Up in the Air movie for a idea about what I am referring to. I value my comfort over saving a few bucks.

I travel over 150K a year, and I have seen what flies in the back and I am not going there. Again, not bragging. Just choose to spend my money on my comfort, not my chiropractor to un-kink my back, or lawyer because I strangled some snotty undisciplined brat that kicks the back of my seat.

153 posted on 05/12/2011 4:40:26 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: RWGinger

Re: this is to point out obese people get and use handicap placard.

Not to whine, but I am 100% disabled from combat in Iraq and have to use leg braces to walk. I don’t even bother to look for handicap spaces at Wal Mart because most are taken up by grossly obese people. This poses a problem only if there is snow and ice to negotiate.


154 posted on 05/12/2011 4:49:32 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Hulka

I think the 20% increase in fares will result in less passengers, less stress, better service, less screaming brats and nasty, self-centered ghetto pants-down below their butt me-me-me Coach travelers. Greyhound will see a surge in their ridership.


I wish I agreed, but if what you say is true, there’d be a free-market airline cleaning up with that strategy. In case you haven’t looked, 90% of the people you’re flying with are CHEAPSKATES!

Which is fine, because we fly first (or at least biz, overnight, overseas).

I loved “Up in the Air.” Except that the gal was bizarrely skanky. Which was part of the story. I started presenting my boarding pass through the magnetometer like he did.

I don’t even fly for business. Not bragging. ;-)


155 posted on 05/12/2011 5:35:45 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (...a.k.a. "Norm L. C. Bias")
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To: altura

Being seated next to someone who slops over into your space does seem to bring out the hate in people.


Being a victim of knowing and intentional theft will do that.


156 posted on 05/12/2011 5:38:21 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (...a.k.a. "Norm L. C. Bias")
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To: jesseam

My biggest problem is the seat in front of me that reclines too far back so you can’t even read a book or enjoy your beverage and pack of peanuts.


Where can I find this airline with coach seats that recline to a detectable degree?

(You really want me to sit upright so you can eat NUTS?!)


157 posted on 05/12/2011 5:41:21 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (...a.k.a. "Norm L. C. Bias")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’m seriously surprised at all the comments concerning these women coming from this site. I did not realize that I was logged on to DU lite with all the veiled and not so veiled insults thrown at these women.

I’m 6’ 3” and weigh 235 pounds. While I am not in line with the government’s idea of fit (less than 190 pounds) I have trouble fitting into airline seats and I’m not out of shape. What I will say is that if any of the people on her were to make these kinds of comments to me in person or to a member of my family, they would be eating their next several meals through a straw...and that would go for the idiots at SouthWest who made a spectacle of this.


158 posted on 05/12/2011 5:47:06 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - H. L Mencken)
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To: Logic n' Reason

LOLOL..... it may not be nice but still....LOLOLOL

A trapped terrorist trying to yell allah akbar but is muffled by a roll of fat...LOL


159 posted on 05/12/2011 5:56:54 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Beelzebubba
I was on a Southwest flight sitting on the last row next to the window, the back row does not recline. The seat in front of me was obviously broken, it reclined within 8” of my face. The woman refused to sit up, I became claustrophobic and came boiling out of my seat, climbing over 2 other people to get out. One of the people was my husband, he does not have claustrophobia so he took that seat because the stewardess refused to do anything. The woman/bitch leaning back didn't get any rest because my husband kicked the back of her seat every 2 minutes and laughed until we landed.
160 posted on 05/12/2011 6:28:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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