Posted on 05/08/2011 8:40:39 AM PDT by rhubarbb
Sorry if this is in the wrong area, this is my first time posting. I'm a long-time lurker who loves FR and I use what I learn all the time against my friends, some of whom (Unfortunately) are liberal. It's the price of going to a big college. I'm really good about speaking the truth to them and showing how they're wrong, and most of my best arguments come from FR. But there's been one question that one of my friends keeps repeating and while I know he's wrong I can't prove it and it's bugging me.
I know the best researchers are here and I figured someone here has figured out how to set the Obama-bots straight on the issue. I've searched through all the other threads on eligibility and didn't find anything.
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My friend says that Spio Agnew (Nixon's VP) proves that you don't need two citizen parents to be a Natural Born Citizen.
Now, I know that the Vice President must meet the same elgibility requirements as the President, and therefore must also be a Natural Born Citizen (12th Amendment). My friend claims that Spiro Agnew's father was a Greek Citizen when he was born. I've tried to find any information to confirm and deny this, but can't find anything. I know he's wrong (he's a Dem... haha) but need help with the proof.
I can't see Nixon choosing someone, and the Republicans electing, a vice president that was obviously unqualified for office.
So my question:
Is this true? Have one of the researcher's looked into Agnew's citizenship? Did Nixon choose a VP that was not a Natural Born Citizen? And if so, did he hide it like Chester A. Arthur did? I figure that one of the reasons I can't find any information on it might be because he did the "hide your past" thing like Arthur.
Any help would be great and help to take a liberal down!!
The liars are free to spittle forth at FR in this season. It remains to be seen if they will get their deserved zotting when the political debates begin. Personally, I don’t plan on continuing as a freeper if these scum continue to enjoy an ignore from the moderators. I’m not the ‘tolerant’ type ya’see.
Is it painful, being so stupid?
You obviously don’t know your American history. Every school boy knows that Vattel was our most important founding father.
x post facto, title 8.
It all started out with me asking, I thought, if the VP had the same birth requirements as the pResident. It got way too complicated too fast.
President George Washington had Vattel's Law of Nations on his desk as it laid "open to the President's scrutiny." He liked it so much that he never returned the copy back to the library. Yes, it was all a big CONspiracy! /sarc Only in the minds of OBots and goofy Aborters.
When and where did I do that exactly?
I wrote exactly what I meant and need no one to correct me.
Debate me, but please don't insult me with passive-aggressive tripe.
Great graphic in #25 that is easy to understand! Thanks!
Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
In the post I responded to. Post # 6:
As long as conservatives continue to push this nonsense, they won't be taken seriously as policy leaders.
You bet. I found it on a bc thread, here on FR some time ago.
Is that you, Jean S?
Moreover, if you find yourself wondering why the GOP, other conservatives, or the world in general is ignoring you, or actively turning hostile on you, it's not because you're wrong in principle. It's because your tactics are not in sync with achieving your goals.
I'd have to sign on to your implied reality to agree with you, but I don't agree that the GOP, other conservatives, and the world in general have been ignoring us Tea-publicans at all.
Trump took Obama to task over his LFBC, and look what happened. He produced something to shut him up. I'd say the tactic of boldly, and loudly condemning Obama's transgressions against our Constitution is a proven winner.
Fighting back against an established evil is never out of sync with achieving the goals of freedom and liberty. This is precisely what having principles is all about.
I take my counsel from the Founders and the examples they provided for the people of this country. They dared to break with convention, and opposed the evil of their time with everything they had to give. That is the American way.
When and where did I try to convince conservatives to abandon the Constitution?
When and where did I try to convince conservatives to abandon the Constitution?
One more time...
You balked at conservatives who are opposing Obama on his constitutional eligibility ("...this nonsense.").
I contend that you're trying to convince conservatives to abandon the upholding of our Constitution, by invalidating their efforts to call attention to Obama's transgression.
That clear enough?
The Professor of Political Law shall deliver Lectures on Natural and National Law.
The text book is Vattel.
Mr. Rogers what is Natural and National Law?
Vattel: Chapter XIX 12. A natural born citizen is born to citizen parents.
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What’s going on here.
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