Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck
Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.
Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.
Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.
As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.
I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.
It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.
I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.
I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.
Respectfully,
Huck
” Second, it was stunning how frequently Obama used the words “I,” “me” and “my” in his speech. He made it all about himself. “
Stunning, yes....but very much in character.
Well said...prodded being a great word to use.
Bush made a feeble attempt to stop the NINJA loans. Then backed off....probably from advice by Rove to milk it with the hispanics.
Please do not misunderstand the skepticism and cynicism. The world has changed since 1998 when I first logged on here, and not just because of 9/11.
At this point in time, the United States Government under the rule of an authentic Usurper has declared war on the American people and their Dream, and has detached itself from any semblance of integrity or honesty.
We now actually have a Ministry of Truth and no longer anything resembling an actual press agency. The Ruling Class now makes it up as they go along, as the ridiculous fiasco of the last two days of "pressers" makes painfully clear, and there is no reason not to doubt anything they say.
Yes we seem to have shallower and less substantive discourse these days, but I say it's still worth the candle, if only to be able to share information and reduce error in the record.
Start one. You started this thread to complain that there weren't any threads like the one you wanted.
Start a celebration thread.
Just don't complain when Obama pisses in your punchbowl.
MB, you’re welcome.
Agreed, stephen. One thing we know about Malignant Narcissism. The more you feed it, the worse it gets. Before he got the WH and AF1, Obama had a few checks on his narcissism. Michelle told him he stunk, and the entire IL senate didn’t sing Hail to the Chief every time he walked in.
Now he’s got an unlimited amount of Narcissistic Supply. He’s getting more drunk on it by the day. In a better age, his unseemly display of ‘I I I, me me me, my my my’, in the wake of the SEALS great victory would have provoked universal disgust.
Nowadays he gets more of a pass. Even so, it appears people are wearying of his childish I I I, me me me, routine. Sooner or later his self-absorption versus our fatigue/disgust with it will reach critical mass. Whatever else happens, Obama will NOT win in ‘12.
” One thing we know about Malignant Narcissism. The more you feed it, the worse it gets. Before he got the WH and AF1, Obama had a few checks on his narcissism. Michelle told him he stunk, and the entire IL senate didn’t sing Hail to the Chief every time he walked in.
Now he’s got an unlimited amount of Narcissistic Supply “
Very well stated.
“And PS, Obama is eligible”
If Obama was eligible why are there 1000s of threads showing he is not. You have been debunked so many times we have lost count.
Obama ordered a mass murderer be cleansed, anointed, wrapped in a shroud and given a proper Muslim send off.
This is beyond bizarre.
We give praise to the previous legal Administration for their intelligence gathering, we give credit to our honorable military but none should befall on a spurious born illegal President.
“Absence of proof is not evidence of a conspiracy.”
“Absence of proof is not evidence of anything”
Actually, you can evidence without 100% proof.”Absence of proof” is absence of proof only. Other things, like evidence, may be there.
“..., which makes it fair game for any speculation.”
Psychologically, yes. Whether its logical is a different question. My whole point is that there is no justification for creating fictional speculations just because you arent sure of the truth. Yet that is what you see happen in conspiracy theories.
I can’t prove to you what I had for breakfast, but it would be illogical for you to speculate that I ate a deisel engine with motor oil.
“Absence of proof requires faith.”
Not really. You can stick with the evidence and level of certainty that evidence gives you. You can have knowledge without certainty, you just need to know whats proven, whats certain and whats neither. Getting to a conclusion and saying “This is what we believe happened, but we dont have 100% proof” doesnt require faith.
Is the assassination of Osama bin Laden an illegal act? (Vanity Question)
Monday, May 02, 2011 7:00:50 PM · 40 of 73
jwalsh07 to fuzzybutt
A big freaking NO. Bin Laden declared war on America and now he has gotten war. Eff him and the morons who question the legality of America killing terrorists who declare war on America.
“And WHY is his father’s race listed as AFRICAN?
That is a CONTINENT - not a RACE! “
So Asian is not a race?
So an African can’t list himself as African on a form?
Time was, you learned a new thing every day on FR. Nowadays, you read the same tired old phony BS again and again (sigh).
Not so. You have to assume that the SEALs were capable of making a 100 percent positive ID of OBL in the field for them to be lying.
We're your Huck-a-bee.
Pard, your OPINE is not front page news...
“...but doubting this event is not ‘healthy skepticism’ it’s nutty.”
I have no doubt that Osama is history. I’m still not sure how believing Obama may not be eligible to be President relates to Osama’s death.
“birther mentality” is a pejorative which seems to most of the media and the left to include anyone who has ANY question about Obama’s eligibility. Use of the phrase by someone who holds himself out to be a conservative, when it is unrelated to the subject of the article, to ridicule a segment of the US population that the author disagrees with, impacts the credibility of the author - and affects how people receive the information provided, regardless of how pertinent or perceptive the article may be.
Having a healthy skepticism about Obama’s eligibility to be President is not nutty - his father was never a US citizen. There is a legal question here that needs to be resolved.
“And PS, Obama is eligible. That’s a dead end.”
Wow! I was wondering who had the last word on the definition of natural born Citizen. Now I know. Thanks!
I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but sometimes I just can’t help myself (it’s a character flaw I’m working on, sometimes unsuccessfully) - and that’s a pretty definitive statement you made. I’d be interested in your reasoning (or proof). Always looking for more information on this subject.
I didn’t put it in front page news. I don’t even know how to do that.
Well, at least we know Obama’s twin brother had the birth certificate all along...
Yeah...
If MY COLB had listed NORTH AMERICAN as ‘race’, then EVERYONE would know my skin color and facial features!
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