Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

[Nachum]

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

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He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

[bgill]

LEE vs. BEATRICE, DEPUTY REGISTRAR: I believe we need to do some serious in-depth reseach on Lee and Beatrice to find out why Lee signed Obama's birth certificate, while Beatrice, the Deputy Registrar, signed the Nordyke twins birth certificate.

There is a bc for someone named Carter who also has a Lee signature but who knows if that is a real bc or another forgery. Your question is a good one. Why would the head honcho be bothered with the mundane stamping and signing of these documents when he has a number of lower level employees to do the job. One would think he had other more important managerial duties. Could be zero's ego got the best of him once again and a deputy signature just isn't good enough for The Won.

[Exmil_UK]

The tab stops are used on the other known Certificates of Live Birth from Hawaii DOH.

Its a *visually obvious* difference that can be easily explained to anyone who has used a manual typewriter - this makes it a threat to the Administrations narrative.

That's how a professional typist would do a quick accurate job on these important documents.

Loosening the carriage return is just sloppy and time consuming when you consider all the different fields on the form.

What if you forget to tighten it up again, and then try to carriage return and type - if the certificate slips out of position you could make a mess of it.

There is also the fact that this is a repeat job for hundreds of certificates a month, so you have to lock down the best method to get it done.

Frankly I don't believe the Abercrombie press release. Its another computer generated verbal gymnastic travesty.

[Hardraade]

The scenario is plausible. But plausibility does not equal reality. Where's the evidence?

Obama's Grandmother, for one. Of course, the events have been so obfuscated, falsified and generally lied abut that the only thing we can say with any certainty is that Obama really *is* a serial liar (and most likely a traitor and the most serious attack on the US since Pearl Harbor)

[Jeff Winston]

I agree with everything you said.

As for disregard of the Constitution, we’re already a good distance down that road. I think it began significantly with Lincoln, who pretty clearly established that joining the Union, whatever a State’s grievances might be, was a one-way road, on penalty of death.

We took another big step in that direction when the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government had the authority to regulate just about anything it wanted to, under the excuse of the “commerce clause.”

Now we’re sliding closer and closer to just a simple disregard for the Constitution.

Fortunately, it’s not entirely in the wrong direction. We’ve made gains in the past few decades, for example, in the area of respecting the 2nd Amendment. So there is at least some hope.

[Jeff Winston]

You don't know that.

It's what is stated on the certificate, and it's accompanied by her signature.

Unless you can prove the document is a forgery (and assuming the thing to be proven is logically invalid) then she is the obvious and reported informant.

[Jeff Winston]

This idea that his lack of eligibility and the crimes committed to cover up this fact is a losing issue is proven wrong by what Trump has done and the enthusiasm his attack has generated. It's that simple.

Lack of eligibility could be a winning issue IF there is hard proof that he isn't eligible.

If there ISN'T hard proof that he isn't eligible, then it's a losing issue.

It's about as simple as that.

The thing to do then, the appropriate way forward, in my opinion at least, is to determine whether there is or is not hard proof that he is ineligible to be President.

At the end of the day, we don't want to be the ones discredited. In my opinion.

It really goes much deeper than that, though, for me. Simply put, I believe in integrity. First and foremost for its own sake. But I also believe integrity can be a winning strategy. Is it always? Absolutely not.

I think societies go through cycles. First, they fall for the smooth-talking charlatan trumpeted by whoever is talking the loudest. Then, once they've been burned (and make no mistake, we're in process of getting burned) they come to their senses and turn to the person with integrity. Reagan had integrity. Bush 2 was far from perfect, but at least he had integrity as well.

But if you give up your integrity, then you become indistinguishable from the charlatans. And unless you're really good at it (which I'm not), there's always going to be a better charlatan than you are.

[supercat]

Specifically, fields 2, 6c and 8, because I don’t know of any typewriters back then which would allow you type with half character spacing.

My late grandfather's manual typewriter has a half-space key, and many that didn't would allow half-spacing by pressing and holding the spacebar while one hit another key.

[Jeff Winston]

Of course, the events have been so obfuscated, falsified and generally lied abut that the only thing we can say with any certainty is that Obama really *is* a serial liar (and most likely a traitor and the most serious attack on the US since Pearl Harbor)

No disagreement from me there.

[little jeremiah]

I disagree. And if people seriously look for hard evidence, it will be found. Much has.

It isn’t easy because of the cowards and criminals in DC. But much has been found and not made public.

[supercat]

Obama's Grandmother, for one.

If one accepts the premise that BHOjr is a liar, and has people who are willing to lie for him, while it would be possible that the grandmother was telling the truth, it would also be possible that she was lying for the purpose of serving up a red herring (e.g. BHO's birth credentials are in order, but something else in his background isn't, and he wants to distract people from finding the real problem).

[bgill]

From a shrink angle I think most of America is po'ed about this from the standpoint of 1. waiting 3 years 2. his smug, "You folks are silly" comment 3. the whole Lakin thing 3. the time people have put in this trying, in their minds, to patriotically uphold the constitution 4. putting another scan, copy out there that means nothing - basically doesn't prove or disprove anything - nothing but the real original paper will do that with separate forensic document examination and verification.

Of the many people I've tried to talk to about this, only one has a clue and then he's usually 6 months behind the times. The others have never heard of Lakin. They've never known anything about there being a problem with the Constitution eligibility. They, of course, haven't a clue that the the bc has been debunked. That's whay zero is counting on. He waves a piece of paper on national tv claiming it's his bc and that birthers are silly and the voters accept him at his word as they go about their daily lives.

[little jeremiah]

History tells us that when those who are evil are surrounded by helpers and cowards, tyranny happens. Happened in the past, happening now, unless some people stop being cowards.

[bgill]

There is no original document to release and they simply changed the access to data that the system previously would not allow. Obozo's grandma made an application for late registration, that was received and noted as received, but never acted upon because of lack of proof required. That is why the HI official refused to certify him before the election, until overruled by Pelosi. So what we saw yesterday was the data from the "application" not the original COLB. That is why it was called an "abstract".

This is also why Gov. Abercrombie couldn't find it and who's only explaination was some mumblings about someone found a note of it somewhere, blah, blah, blah.

[Texas Fossil]

Yes, blah blah blah “actually written down” hee hee hee

Abercrombie was an idiot old hippie. But those type of lefties is who Obozo loves.

And nothing from the HI Dept. of Health except Legal Weasel Words.....Pretending to say something, but by choice of words avoiding actually saying what it appears they said.

[Brown Deer]

It's what is stated on the certificate

No, it says parent on the certificate.

Unless you can prove the document is a forgery

I don't have to prove anything. The fact is, it's fraudulent.

she is the obvious and reported informant.

It would only be obvious to an ignorant person. What is obvious, is that for three years, he refused to show a birth certificate, spent millions of dollars to do so and then all of sudden spent thousands of dollars to send lawyers to Hawaii to pick something up that could have been sent in the mail. What is obvious, is that two years ago CNN reported that there was no birth certificate, and then a few days before this was released, did a special report on the subject. What is obvious, is that it was written in a book of "Dreams" that he had found his birth certificate many years before he had the first forgery created, but has never shared that piece of paper. What is obvious, is that both Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Barack Hussein Obama II are FRAUDS.

[bluecat6]

Is it just me or has anyone figured out that the new head of DOH at Hawaii admits, directly in the letter posted at the White that this is a unique ‘computer-generated certified copy’?

See Ms. Fuddy’s (yes that is the real name) letter at the bottom of this link.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf

“I have the legal authority to approve the process by which copies of such records are made. Through that authority, in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy.”

So yes...its computer generated and not a ‘scan’ of real document. Ms. Fuddy tells us that - very directly.

Anything found or not found can be explained since they openly claim a) they have the authority to change the process and b) they did and created a computer-generated POS image and declared it to be a ‘certified copy’.

It seems Ms. Fuddy was brought in to do what Palafox may have refused to do.....

[restornu]

The icing on the cake would be George Soros the Globalist got so fed withup with Obama radical Muslim, Marxist he reveal that that BC is fraud!

[Darksheare]

Either because it is a diversion, or they truly are stupid.

[bgill]

in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy.”

Strong arm tactics being used?

[Brown Deer]

Your late grandfather had a typewriter made after 1960.

So, why would the typist spend all that extra time holding down the spacebar, typing the “M”, holding down the spacebar, typing the “a”, holding down the spacebar, typing the “l”, holding down the spacebar and typing the “e”?

Especially considering how sloppy and inconsistent the rest of the birth certificate was in comparison to the two others that she would have typed for the twins.